Age of accountability?

[KingsGambit]

I see no reason to believe in just one 'age' except for ill-considered simplification. It would seem more natural that as humans mature in understanding they are thereby aware of and thus responsible for more and more sins.

I don't know that people dogmatically hold to an individual "age" so much as they use the name as a stand-in for a general understanding of a threshold of responsibility.

Those who espouse Sola Scriptura tend to be a unceasing source of irony.

That's a whole different thread...

[Paprika]

I don't know that people dogmatically hold to an individual "age" so much as they use the name as a stand-in for a general understanding of a threshold of responsibility.

You can replace 'age' with 'threshold' in my post and nothing much changes.

That's a whole different thread...

Come on, that shot was practically obligatory

[KingsGambit]

Incidentally, going back to the mention of David and the loss of his son... nowhere is it recorded that God endorsed what he said; just that this is what David believed would happen (and I think the "grave" translation is probably more likely anyway).

[Obsidian]

Job said repeatedly that he would have been better off dying as a baby.

[KingsGambit]

Job said repeatedly that he would have been better off dying as a baby.

That seems like a rhetorical cry that all that he had gained in his earthly life was useless and not a hard theological proposition.

[Paprika]

Job said repeatedly that he would have been better off dying as a baby.

The clear primary sense is that he would have been better off because he wouldn't have suffered as he was suffering but instead resting with the dead, which has nothing to do with age of accountability.

[KingsGambit]

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[Cow Poke]

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There goes the neighborhood!

[alaskazimm]

Incidentally, going back to the mention of David and the loss of his son... nowhere is it recorded that God endorsed what he said; just that this is what David believed would happen (and I think the "grave" translation is probably more likely anyway).

This is true, but that's the only scripture that I can think of that could be pressed into the service of teaching infants go to heaven automatically if they die.

[Obsidian]

Everything else that Job said was hard theological propositions, and God ultimately agreed that Job spoke correctly. Furthermore, this premise that you all keep using that people believed in the consciousless "grave" sounds like the Jehovah's Witness soul sleep heresy.

[Obsidian]

And why would 37818 need anyone's permission

[37818]

An otherwise obscure Biblical basis for an age of accountabilty.

"But Jesus said, Allow little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven." -- Matthew 19:14.

First, God's kingdom is for "little children."

Second, Jesus did teach, "Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein." -- Mark 10:15. For which reason Jesus said to Nicodemus, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." -- John 3:3.

Now the word, "little children."

Jairus' daughter was called a "little daughter" Mark 5:23. The same Greek ending for child, meaning little children. And she was said to be 12 years old (v.42). So this account is one place where the age of 12 comes from.

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[Cerebrum123]

And why would 37818 need anyone's permission

He's considered unorthodox now.

[Cerebrum123]

Everything else that Job said was hard theological propositions, and God ultimately agreed that Job spoke correctly. Furthermore, this premise that you all keep using that people believed in the consciousless "grave" sounds like the Jehovah's Witness soul sleep heresy.

Do you consider annihilationism to be heresy? I'm not one, but KG is.

[Christianbookworm]

Do you consider annihilationism to be heresy? I'm not one, but KG is.

Yeah, I don't agree with the idea, but I wouldn't call it a heresy. It's not an essential.