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September 29th 2005, 02:02 PM #1
Abortion Clinic offers Free Abortion for Katrina Evacuees
For the rest of the article... sourceI may not yet be as old as dirt, but dirt and I are starting to have an awful lot in common... Stephen Donaldson - Author of my favorite series (The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant)
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September 29th 2005, 02:59 PM #2
Re: Abortion Clinic offers Free Abortion for Katrina Evacuees
I think Planned Parenthood did something similar too, though I don't remember if they offered free abortions.
"Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.
And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace
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September 30th 2005, 02:53 PM #3
Re: Abortion Clinic offers Free Abortion for Katrina Evacuees
They're all heart, those abortion clinics. Now excuse me while I throw up.
Some may call me foolish - some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of men
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From Fool's Gold by Petra
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June 22nd 2006, 12:38 PM #4
Re: Abortion Clinic offers Free Abortion for Katrina Evacuees
Originally posted by Bill the Cat
Awesome!
I'm sure there are alot of women that will benefit.
Love,
Goth_S
And Shepherds we shall be
For thee, my Lord, for thee.
Power hath descended forth from Thy hand
Our feet may swiftly carry out Thy commands.
So we shall flow a river forth to Thee
And teeming with souls shall it ever be.
In Nomeni Patri Et Fili Spiritus Sancti.
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June 22nd 2006, 12:53 PM #5
Re: Abortion Clinic offers Free Abortion for Katrina Evacuees
Originally posted by Bill the Cat
Dr Nick Riviera, walking down the street, sees a starving woman:
Dr Nick: Holy Crap! You need an Abortion!
Doesn't Planned Parenthood provide free abortions anyway?"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." --C.S. Lewis
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June 22nd 2006, 12:57 PM #6
Re: Abortion Clinic offers Free Abortion for Katrina Evacuees
Hmmm....killing innocent humans is now interpreted as humanitarian?
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June 22nd 2006, 12:58 PM #7
Re: Abortion Clinic offers Free Abortion for Katrina Evacuees
I dunno, but if it is, I'm gonna interpret abortion clininc bombings and shooting abortionists in the head through the kitchen window as humanitarian as well.
"Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.
And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace
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June 22nd 2006, 01:07 PM #8
Re: Abortion Clinic offers Free Abortion for Katrina Evacuees
At what point does a clump of cells without a brain become a human, and worthy of humanitarianism?
Love,
Goth_S
And Shepherds we shall be
For thee, my Lord, for thee.
Power hath descended forth from Thy hand
Our feet may swiftly carry out Thy commands.
So we shall flow a river forth to Thee
And teeming with souls shall it ever be.
In Nomeni Patri Et Fili Spiritus Sancti.
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June 22nd 2006, 01:09 PM #9
Re: Abortion Clinic offers Free Abortion for Katrina Evacuees
At which point did some blowhard decide all there is to humans is their brain?
Originally posted by Goth_S
"Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.
And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace
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June 22nd 2006, 02:31 PM #10
Re: Abortion Clinic offers Free Abortion for Katrina Evacuees
Originally posted by Darth Executor
So is this to say that perhaps our simian ancestors are humans?
They share over 98% of our same DNA in some cases.
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/608/
What *does* make a human, a human, if not the brain?
Love,
Goth_S
And Shepherds we shall be
For thee, my Lord, for thee.
Power hath descended forth from Thy hand
Our feet may swiftly carry out Thy commands.
So we shall flow a river forth to Thee
And teeming with souls shall it ever be.
In Nomeni Patri Et Fili Spiritus Sancti.
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June 22nd 2006, 02:38 PM #11
Re: Abortion Clinic offers Free Abortion for Katrina Evacuees
Apparently Katrina is still creating casualties.
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June 22nd 2006, 03:27 PM #12
Re: Abortion Clinic offers Free Abortion for Katrina Evacuees
There are monkeys that are smarter than babies. Does that make the monkeys human or does it make the babies monkeys?
Originally posted by Goth_S
Their DNA and the ability to go through stages of human development. And with all due respect, I've had this discussion several times already and have no wish to go through it again. It always goes the exact same way: the pro-choicer picks an arbitrary feature (usually the brain) and postulates that a creature needs it to be considered human and the conversations consists of my opponent dancing around the fact that he/she is forced to admit one of two things:What *does* make a human, a human, if not the brain?
A) Your brain isn't so special until you become older and thus is irrelevant to the issue of abortion.
B) You support killing born babies"Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.
And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace
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June 22nd 2006, 03:36 PM #13
Re: Abortion Clinic offers Free Abortion for Katrina Evacuees
Intelligence is not the issue here. The possession of a brain, (the defining aspect of a human) is.
Originally posted by Darth Executor
Their DNA and the ability to go through stages of human development. And with all due respect, I've had this discussion several times already and have no wish to go through it again. It always goes the exact same way: the pro-choicer picks an arbitrary feature (usually the brain) and postulates that a creature needs it to be considered human and the conversations consists of my opponent dancing around the fact that he/she is forced to admit one of two things:
A) Your brain isn't so special until you become older and thus is irrelevant to the issue of abortion.
B) You support killing born babies
Arbitrary? What criteria do you use to justify your stance on abortion then?
As for your two admissions, I refuse to admit either since they don't apply to me or my philos.
A) the brain is the defining characteristic of a human. A human without a brain is typically termed to be in either a vegitative state, or dead.
B) I never stated support for the killing of "born babies." That's why it's called "abortion." To "abort" the pregnancy, before the child comes to term (Born)
Love,
Goth_S
And Shepherds we shall be
For thee, my Lord, for thee.
Power hath descended forth from Thy hand
Our feet may swiftly carry out Thy commands.
So we shall flow a river forth to Thee
And teeming with souls shall it ever be.
In Nomeni Patri Et Fili Spiritus Sancti.
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June 22nd 2006, 03:44 PM #14
Re: Abortion Clinic offers Free Abortion for Katrina Evacuees
The medical definition of brain death is "Irreversible brain damage and loss of brain function, as evidenced by cessation of breathing and other vital reflexes, unresponsiveness to stimuli, absence of muscle activity, and a flat electroencephalogram for a specific length of time." The key word here is "irreversible". All things being equal, human embryos do not fit this definition.
Originally posted by Goth_S
Some may call me foolish - some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of men
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From Fool's Gold by Petra
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June 22nd 2006, 03:52 PM #15
Re: Abortion Clinic offers Free Abortion for Katrina Evacuees
Only humans have brains?
Originally posted by Goth_S
"Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.
And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace
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