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    Witnessing to Atheists

    I'm thinking maybe some of the best apologetics with regards to atheists may be "caught" more than "taught".

    For 10 years, and admittedly not of my own choosing, my executive assistant was an atheist lesbian Jew. From the moment she found out I was a Christian, she was relentless in her mocking of (she used a word not approved of on Tweb due to blasphemy).

    I just decided to continue to be professional, courteous, and "Christian". She never missed an opportunity to flaunt her lesbianism or to bash Christ. She was in charge of arranging our annual Christmas party, which she tried her best to change to "Holiday Party", but the owners wouldn't allow that.

    LONG story short, I treated her with courtesy and respect, and, eventually, I endured an episode where my son-in-law to be was diagnosed with cancer. Sharon (not her real name) was compassionate about this, realizing this was not the time to be combative, and often asked how things were going. I ended up performing the wedding for my daughter and the young man, knowing his cancer was terminal, and the "til death do you part" part was really hard for me to say during the vows. 30 days after marrying them, I buried him. Sharon was paying particular attention to my handling of this whole saga.

    Amazingly, during this same time, Sharon's sister was diagnosed with terminal cancer. It was a Jewish funeral out of state, else I might have attended just to support Sharon.

    When she got back from family leave, Sharon came into my office and closed the door. She asked, "what if you're right and I'm wrong?"

    I had no idea what she was talking about, but she continued.. "about the Jesus thing".

    I explained that if I am wrong about Jesus, then I will have lived a pleasant life, loving family, avoiding a lot of ugliness, and die in peace, apparently dissolving into nothingness, or "whatever" -- no regrets. IF, however, SHE were wrong.... and she interrupted "then I'm in a hell of a lot of trouble".

    I don't know that she has taken that any further, or thought much more about it, but I do know that I had an opportunity to witness to her that I never would have had if I had "taken the bait" and "battled" her antagonism and hostility.

    I don't discount AT ALL the admonition from scripture to "always be ready to give an answer...." -- in fact, it's a fundamental part of my approach to witnessing. But at some point, there has to be "fertile ground" to plant the seed, and it's amazing to me how the Holy Spirit prepares the soil.
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    Despite our religious differences, I commend you for meeting hostility with patience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seasanctuary View Post
    Despite our religious differences, I commend you for meeting hostility with patience.
    It's the Christian thing to do!

    (Thanks, Sea)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    When she got back from family leave, Sharon came into my office and closed the door. She asked, "what if you're right and I'm wrong?"
    I had no idea what she was talking about, but she continued.. "about the Jesus thing".
    I explained that if I am wrong about Jesus, then I will have lived a pleasant life, loving family, avoiding a lot of ugliness, and die in peace, apparently dissolving into nothingness, or "whatever" -- no regrets. IF, however, SHE were wrong.... and she interrupted "then I'm in a hell of a lot of trouble".
    So the religion bullies her when she is at her most vulnerable. There is nothing good about that. Sorry to hear about your son-in-law. Into every life a little rain must fall.
    “I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
    “You can safely assume you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do.” ― Anne Lamott
    “And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell

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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    So the religion bullies her when she is at her most vulnerable.
    "bullies"? wow

    There is nothing good about that.
    You seem bitter.

    Sorry to hear about your son-in-law.
    Yes, I can see the empathy oozing....

    Into every life a little rain must fall.
    ... and all who live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by firstfloor View Post
    So the religion bullies her when she is at her most vulnerable.
    Let's try another scenario --- the thief sat in her jail cell, thinking about the dumb thing she did when she stole that family's Christmas presents..... her conscience "bullied" her when she was "at her most vulnerable".

    Yeah, you're right, FF.... nothing good about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Let's try another scenario --- the thief sat in her jail cell, thinking about the dumb thing she did when she stole that family's Christmas presents..... her conscience "bullied" her when she was "at her most vulnerable".

    Yeah, you're right, FF.... nothing good about that.
    CP, firstfloor is a . He's demonstrated that very clearly in many threads. You're probably not going to have very fruitful discussion with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerebrum123 View Post
    CP, firstfloor is a . He's demonstrated that very clearly in many threads. You're probably not going to have very fruitful discussion with him.
    Yeah, I'm seeing that. He seems like one of the more "rabid" atheists.

    Thanks, Brum!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Yeah, I'm seeing that. He seems like one of the more "rabid" atheists.

    Thanks, Brum!
    Yup, although he tends to be more passive aggressive in the way he does it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerebrum123 View Post
    Yup, although he tends to be more passive aggressive in the way he does it.
    Jesus still loves him.
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