June 29th 2003, 03:24 PM #1
I'm new here, so if this has been discussed before, sorry about that.
Have any of you ever read Frank Herbert's marvelous Dune books? I just finished God Emporer of Dune, and I was impressed by the fairly deep political philosophy it contained, as well as the overall good plot. I find the argument interesting that humanity feeds off chaos. Leto is an extremely interesting character. After a first reading, I'm not entirely sure exactly what to think of him. The Fish Speakers are also an interesting concept, looking at the book from the point of view of military history/theory. anyone else enjoy these books?beautiful, sacred face
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June 29th 2003, 03:29 PM #2
June 29th 2003, 04:23 PM #3
Dune books =
The Dune movie = :dunce:In God's Grace,
June 29th 2003, 04:41 PM #4
The Dune series was pretty good, until you started getting to the Children of Dune.. then they started to get a little redundant.
However, the first 3 books where excellent reading, and very philosophical..
A good choice of Sci-Fi book
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June 30th 2003, 09:03 AM #5
June 30th 2003, 12:54 PM #6
hmmm, y'all could be talkin bout the differences for egood or bad of the sci-fi made Dune movies vs. the craptastically challenged lynch one.
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July 1st 2003, 07:47 PM #7
hey! I liked the first dune movie. It inspired me to eventually read the books.
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July 2nd 2003, 01:06 AM #8
I hated Dune. Their weren't any characters in it that seemed like real people, especially the women. The movies were worse. And being a nihilist philosopher isn't special.
And, in response to Undomiel in the linked thread, I am tired of star wars. The magic is gone, and only poor righting and mediocre acting remains.
And to be even more bitter, I am sorry you rerad all that Ayn Rand Solly.
Finally, I recommend all you sci-fi fans to read Snow Crash, by Neil Stephenson. It is cyber punk comedy par excellence.Meh.
July 3rd 2003, 05:52 AM #9
i'd agree with ryokan's last sentence......but Dune is not about the characters at all really....i'd say it was about all the stuff the people represented.
agree with the women though.
star wars, conceptually, the first two eps are awesome. so awesome. in reality, and in just about any other way, horribleIt's odd how one's memories of youth turn out so bleak. Why does the business of growing up - one's recollections of growth itself - have to be so tragic? I still haven't found the answer. I doubt if anyone has. When I finally reach thar stage at which the placid wisdom of old age, with the dry clarity that comes toward autumn's end, occasionally descends on a person, then I too may suddenly discover that I too understand. But I doubt whether, by that time, understanding will have much point. ~Yukio Mishima
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