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November 20th 2005, 08:09 PM #1
When approximately did the Mission happen?
Or the New World was split up between the Portugese and the Spaniards?
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November 20th 2005, 08:26 PM #2
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Undisclosed - WiccanRe: When approximately did the Mission happen?
Not sure what "Mission" you're speaking of, but the Treaty of Tordesillas is the treaty you're referring to.
Originally posted by Love-Warrior
Life sometimes needs to be grabbed by the throat and beaten with a lead pipe. ~ Sir Longpost, a good friend of mine.
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November 20th 2005, 09:04 PM #3
Re: When approximately did the Mission happen?
I was referring to the Movie, which happened around the time Spain and Portugal were carving up the new world...
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November 20th 2005, 09:16 PM #4
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November 20th 2005, 09:29 PM #5
Re: When approximately did the Mission happen?
It seems the movie must have happened some time before the jesuit order was cast out of the new world in the mid 18th Ctry, in part because of their longstanding protection of the Guranis. Apparently, this happened over the course of 150 years, and so it seems the movie dehistoricized the movement for dramatic effect.
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November 20th 2005, 09:30 PM #6
Re: When approximately did the Mission happen?
Respond to waht I mean, not what I say...
Originally posted by norwegen
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November 20th 2005, 09:34 PM #7
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Undisclosed - WiccanRe: When approximately did the Mission happen?
Well, all IMDB says about it is "18th century." This could have been the "last straw" that prompted the expulsion of the Jesuits ... or just dramatic effect.
Life sometimes needs to be grabbed by the throat and beaten with a lead pipe. ~ Sir Longpost, a good friend of mine.
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November 20th 2005, 09:37 PM #8
Re: When approximately did the Mission happen?
Sorry, Love Warrior. I opened this thread and saw a couple blurbs by you and aCoM about Spanish and Portuguese history, but I didn't see the name of this movie you're referring to. I still don't know what you're talking about. Forgive me for being slow or clueless.
Originally posted by Love-Warrior
I guess I'll just go elsewhere.
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November 20th 2005, 10:01 PM #9
Re: When approximately did the Mission happen?
No it's cool. I'm the one that mistyped....
Originally posted by norwegen
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November 28th 2005, 03:12 PM #10
Re: When approximately did the Mission happen?
From what I've read at St. X, (Jesuit highschool), the Jesuit Reductions on which the events of the movie take place existed from about 1550, when the King of Spain was persuaded to leave the land under the virtual dictatorship of the Jesuits, in 1550. The Jesuits attempted to create a society based on early Christian principle there, promoting religion, the arts, communal ownership, etc. They were reasonably successful, the Gurani were the first global population to be wholely literate, thanks to their locations, farming could be supplemented by valuable wood working and hunting, meaning workdays were only about 6-8 hours,versus 12-16 in Europe and in the colonies), and they had free health care. They also outlawed slavery and the death penalty (criminals were imprisoned or, mostly, banished) It wasn't a bad set up. However, eventually Spain ceded the territory to Portugal, which seized it back from the Jesuits, killing most of the priests and driving the indigenious peoples back into the forest, around 1767, I think.
Meh.
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