When approximately did the Mission happen?

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      When approximately did the Mission happen?

      Or the New World was split up between the Portugese and the Spaniards?

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      Re: When approximately did the Mission happen?

      Quote Originally posted by Love-Warrior
      Or the New World was split up between the Portugese and the Spaniards?

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      Not sure what "Mission" you're speaking of, but the Treaty of Tordesillas is the treaty you're referring to.
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      Re: When approximately did the Mission happen?

      I was referring to the Movie, which happened around the time Spain and Portugal were carving up the new world...

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      Re: When approximately did the Mission happen?

      Quote Originally posted by Love-Warrior
      I was referring to the Movie, which happened around the time Spain and Portugal were carving up the new world...
      Movies are 20th century phenomena.
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      Re: When approximately did the Mission happen?

      It seems the movie must have happened some time before the jesuit order was cast out of the new world in the mid 18th Ctry, in part because of their longstanding protection of the Guranis. Apparently, this happened over the course of 150 years, and so it seems the movie dehistoricized the movement for dramatic effect.

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      Re: When approximately did the Mission happen?

      Quote Originally posted by norwegen
      Movies are 20th century phenomena.
      Respond to waht I mean, not what I say...

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      Re: When approximately did the Mission happen?

      Well, all IMDB says about it is "18th century." This could have been the "last straw" that prompted the expulsion of the Jesuits ... or just dramatic effect.
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      Re: When approximately did the Mission happen?

      Quote Originally posted by Love-Warrior
      Respond to waht I mean, not what I say...

      dlw
      Sorry, Love Warrior. I opened this thread and saw a couple blurbs by you and aCoM about Spanish and Portuguese history, but I didn't see the name of this movie you're referring to. I still don't know what you're talking about. Forgive me for being slow or clueless.

      I guess I'll just go elsewhere.
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      Re: When approximately did the Mission happen?

      Quote Originally posted by norwegen
      Sorry, Love Warrior. I opened this thread and saw a couple blurbs by you and aCoM about Spanish and Portuguese history, but I didn't see the name of this movie you're referring to. I still don't know what you're talking about. Forgive me for being slow or clueless.

      I guess I'll just go elsewhere.
      No it's cool. I'm the one that mistyped....

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      Re: When approximately did the Mission happen?

      From what I've read at St. X, (Jesuit highschool), the Jesuit Reductions on which the events of the movie take place existed from about 1550, when the King of Spain was persuaded to leave the land under the virtual dictatorship of the Jesuits, in 1550. The Jesuits attempted to create a society based on early Christian principle there, promoting religion, the arts, communal ownership, etc. They were reasonably successful, the Gurani were the first global population to be wholely literate, thanks to their locations, farming could be supplemented by valuable wood working and hunting, meaning workdays were only about 6-8 hours,versus 12-16 in Europe and in the colonies), and they had free health care. They also outlawed slavery and the death penalty (criminals were imprisoned or, mostly, banished) It wasn't a bad set up. However, eventually Spain ceded the territory to Portugal, which seized it back from the Jesuits, killing most of the priests and driving the indigenious peoples back into the forest, around 1767, I think.
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