Thread: Francis Schaeffer
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July 5th 2003, 01:52 PM #1
Francis Schaeffer
I was wondering if any of you have read any of Francis Schaeffers works. I've read a fair amount of his writting in school, and he's quickly become one of my favorite authors.
Personally, I've love the way he always looked at the world in consideration of heaven andhell, keping the "whole story" in mind. Some of my favorite things that Ive read of his is when he discosses the worldviews behind cultures, throught art, music and the people of the times.
What are your favorite books of his or thoughts on his writing?
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July 5th 2003, 01:58 PM #2
I think you'll find a decent number of Schaeffer-admirers here.
I like his series of worldview perspective books (the God Who Is There, He Is There and He Is Not Silent, and Genesis in Time and Space. Apologies if the titles are a little off--I'm too lazy to double-check.
His messages in No Little People (Hobbits, anyone?), Pollution and the Death of Man, and The Mark of the Christian have all had an enduring effect on me.Capt. Ochre
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July 5th 2003, 02:00 PM #3
Embarassingly enough I have not read any of his material.
Nochyu mokraya ptitsa nikogda ne letaet.
A wet bird never flies at night. -unknown [old Russian proverb]
Eudyptes: you are....as usual....100% correct
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July 5th 2003, 02:09 PM #4You're not supposed to admit it publicly.Today @ 07:00 PM post located here
Dee Dee Warren:
Embarassingly enough I have not read any of his material.
Capt. Ochre
"I am so confused."
--mossrose, summing up the mission of Theologyweb
"If he does remove a John Powell quote, I do have a suggestion."
--Trout
"In no possible worlds would a Trout quip ever appear in a Captain Ochre sig."
--LGM, referring to the impossibility of this signature line
"I never doubted for a moment that you had what it takes!"
--LGM, congratulating Trout on accomplishing the impossible
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July 6th 2003, 01:24 AM #5
The Great Evangelical Disaster
The Great Evangelical Disaster instructively shows how biblical inerrancy is a watershed issue. Schaeffer describes this term from his perspective in the Swiss mountains: a watershed doesn't look like much, but water on one side will flow to end up in the sea on opposite sides thousands of miles apart. And once a denomination permits the slightest compromise on inerrancy, it will slide all the way to complete apostasy.
Schaeffer also provides useful advice on dealing with controversies, with a balance picture of what biblical love means.
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July 6th 2003, 02:35 AM #6
Re: The Great Evangelical Disaster
I'm remiss for not mentioning that one, as well as How Should We Then Live, I guess.Today @ 06:24 AM post located here
Socrates:
The Great Evangelical Disaster instructively shows how biblical inerrancy is a watershed issue. Schaeffer describes this term from his perspective in the Swiss mountains: a watershed doesn't look like much, but water on one side will flow to end up in the sea on opposite sides thousands of miles apart. And once a denomination permits the slightest compromise on inerrancy, it will slide all the way to complete apostasy.
Schaeffer also provides useful advice on dealing with controversies, with a balance picture of what biblical love means.
Sliding off-topic a bit, have any of you other Schaefferites(!) read stuff by Alister McGrath, such as his A Passion for Truth?Capt. Ochre
"I am so confused."
--mossrose, summing up the mission of Theologyweb
"If he does remove a John Powell quote, I do have a suggestion."
--Trout
"In no possible worlds would a Trout quip ever appear in a Captain Ochre sig."
--LGM, referring to the impossibility of this signature line
"I never doubted for a moment that you had what it takes!"
--LGM, congratulating Trout on accomplishing the impossible
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July 7th 2003, 02:41 PM #7
Im currently reading (among others) "True Spirituality" which is one of the best ive read on the subject thus far, right up there with TH Hunts "The Mind of Christ"...Ive also found used 'The Christian Manifesto" and "Letters" and plan to read those soon.
"...And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth."
"...God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God..."
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July 8th 2003, 04:39 AM #8
D.A. Carson said that True Spirituality is probably one of hte best popular expositions of Romans 6 in print (that was in the spring of 2000).
My Favorites are:
- The Church at the End of the Twentieth Century
- The Mark of a Christian
- The Church Before the Watching World
- Death in the City
- A Christian Manifesto
- True Spirituality
I also like the video seires to How Should We Then Live I also have Whatever Happened to the Human Race which is okay but IMHO not as compelling, Franky was too weird in that one.
GP"Reading the Bible in a translation is like kissing your bride through the veil."
Rabbinic Saying"To suppose that whatever God requireth of us that we have power of ourselves to do, is to make the cross and grace of Jesus Christ of none effect."
JOHN OWEN, III:433
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July 8th 2003, 04:42 AM #9
It's been a good few years since I read him, but the oft printed trilogy is my favourite, the one with Escape from Reason - though a little dated in places.

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March 22nd 2011, 03:55 PM #10
Re: Francis Schaeffer
I am reading and attempting to grasp "The God Who Is There." Any assistance or input on that is welcome. I am not certain I am grasping everything that he is saying.
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April 6th 2011, 02:05 PM #11
Re: Francis Schaeffer
There appear to be some problems with Schaeffer's work, even from a cursory reading. A number of his reviews on Amazon don't look too promising either. Apparently he doesn't use primary sources. I suppose he'd be an interesting "teacher" not so much "scholar."
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