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Originally posted by siam View PostExploitation for political purpose---Agreed...that was my point from the beginning....that those religions/philosophies that gain influence (political influence and control territories under them) such as Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Buddhism...such religions are exploited for political wars because religions offer meaning and that fits right in with politicians who want to go to war for political reasons but want to justify it as "meaningful" warfare....
Scripture---Again...agree. But there are passages and ideas in Buddhism that were misused for violence.....
Japan/Emperor---the Emperor was a puppet during the Shogunate period (as well as WW---the military simply exploited the idea)
Buddhism and assimilation---Here I disagree with you...Buddhism assimilates so much so that it almost becomes a fusion...such as China with Taoism/Confucianism, Japan with Shinto, Southeast Asia with Hinduism...etc...
There are areas where Buddhism has a vacuum....such as Kingship---the legitimacy for Kingship is filled with other religions/philosophies such as Confucian/Tao, Shinto, Hindu...(In Buddhism, Siddartha gives up his kingdom....not an idea that power hungry Kings are going to embrace....)
Ahimsa(Non-Violence)---what is your understanding of the is issue?
There are problems of militarism and Nationalism in Buddhist countries particularly in recent times, but by far the dominant history of Buddhism has not involved militarism and aggressive warfare.Last edited by shunyadragon; 05-13-2015, 11:20 AM.
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Originally posted by Paprika View PostThat's precisely your problem: you can't suspend your own beliefs to properly consider another set of beliefs.
Is Allah not loving? Yet will he not judge unbelievers?
The Kingdom does not originate from this world but it is for this world.
If you are saying that my "Beliefs" (paradigm) colors the way I approach an NT text---I agree....that is how Christians also approach the OT text.
"Judgement" process in Islam is different from Christianity....as is how the term "love" (Divine love) is understood.....
What is "Kingdom"? is Kingdom and Judgement the same thing?
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Originally posted by siam View PostIf you are saying that my "Beliefs" (paradigm) colors the way I approach an NT text---I agree....that is how Christians also approach the OT text.
"Judgement" process in Islam is different from Christianity....as is how the term "love" (Divine love) is understood.....
What is "Kingdom"?
is Kingdom and Judgement the same thing?
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Originally posted by siam View Post@Shuny
Non-Voilence (in Buddhism)---I meant how do you think about it as a philosophy? is it practical?....
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostYes, the principle like in the Baha'i Faith only allows for self defense, bans any form of aggressive violence, holy wars. I believe the concept of compassionate killing applies to self defense, and when necessary killing animals for food.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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@ Shuny
Dharma (Morality/Ethics) as a social/civic legal system...
I can't find the link to it, but, an article I was reading, about the concept of Compassionate Killing made an interesting point that Buddhism was not designed as a civic/social system---it was designed for individual "liberation" (from Karmic cycle). So the concept of compassionate killing is concerned with the soul (and Karmic consequences) of both the actor of compassionate killing as well as the victim. Because of this vacuum, the concept can be abused when used in a political situation.....(such as defense of the country/community by Sinhalese Buddhists (Sri Lanka) against colonialism).
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Originally posted by siam View Post@ Shuny
Dharma (Morality/Ethics) as a social/civic legal system...
I can't find the link to it, but, an article I was reading, about the concept of Compassionate Killing made an interesting point that Buddhism was not designed as a civic/social system---it was designed for individual "liberation" (from Karmic cycle). So the concept of compassionate killing is concerned with the soul (and Karmic consequences) of both the actor of compassionate killing as well as the victim. Because of this vacuum, the concept can be abused when used in a political situation.....(such as defense of the country/community by Sinhalese Buddhists (Sri Lanka) against colonialism).
Your correct, Buddhism was never intended to be a theocracy centered belief as Judaism, Christianity and Islam, and was not intended to be civic/political in nature. Unlike western religions where the corruption of scripture and belief may be the case to justify an aggressive war. The belief in Buddhism is not used for the justification for an aggressive war or even rebellion as is the case in Sri Lanka
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