Millennial flavors

[Solly]

Oo-er Missus

[Jaltus]

Hey, Dee Dee. How about where we have a thread to hash this out, once and for all. I am not a big eschatology buff, but I'd love to have a one on one thread where you and I can talk about what is legit and what is not legit.

I think your arguments about the Olivet Discourse are pretty solid (it took me a few tries just now to spell discourse, LOL), but I'd like to see more about your postmill stuff.

You say they are bound together, but you can be a preterist-amill if you feel the need. I understand your preterism, it is the postmill part I don't get.

So here is my thought. Dee Dee and Jaltus, one on one, a discussion thread.

This would also mean you get ONE POST and then the other responds. Generally, I get one post, and you respond with 4-5 posts all book length, and then ask why I did not answer all your points. Let us do it one post at a time, with unlimited time between postings, so we can both research and do this thing right.

What do you say? I am interested in learning, how about you?

[Dee Dee Warren]

Jaltus:
Hey, Dee Dee. How about where we have a thread to hash this out, once and for all. I am not a big eschatology buff, but I'd love to have a one on one thread where you and I can talk about what is legit and what is not legit.

Hey that sounds great!!! I have done this before with Cirisme and it worked out really well.

I think your arguments about the Olivet Discourse are pretty solid (it took me a few tries just now to spell discourse, LOL), but I'd like to see more about your postmill stuff.

Wow, so I am making some headway with the Discourse???

You say they are bound together, but you can be a preterist-amill if you feel the need. I understand your preterism, it is the postmill part I don't get.

Okay, I understand and really appreciate your candidness.

So here is my thought. Dee Dee and Jaltus, one on one, a discussion thread.

I am all for that!

This would also mean you get ONE POST and then the other responds. Generally, I get one post, and you respond with 4-5 posts all book length, and then ask why I did not answer all your points. Let us do it one post at a time, with unlimited time between postings, so we can both research and do this thing right.

You know me toooo well. LOL. Boom has already clipped my wing feathers here with regards to post length, so that sounds fine.

What do you say? I am interested in learning, how about you?

Yes. Absolutley. Start the thread, and I am there.

[Faramir]

This should be Great!!

[Jaltus]

One question, should that stay in this forum, or should it move to a challenge area?

My question is because I want it to stay just the two of us. Of course, we could do that by making it a closed thread so only mods could post, and then both of us could still post, LOL.

However, that is up to you.

[Dee Dee Warren]

Dear Jaltus:

I think we could keep it here in this area, but just put a notice in the thread that we are requesting to keep it between us two. It worked over at another forum with Cirisme and I.

[Jaltus]

Sounds good.

[Rubia Warren]

Dee Dee Warren:
Okay, I am always curious about demographics. What millennial view do you hold??

Let's see: #1...#2....#3....#4.....oh, there's too many choices!! What to pick, what to pick!!!

[Ric]

I voted for Dispensational Premillennial.

I know there is a difference between Dispensational Premillennial and Historic Premillennial, but I can't remember what it is - can someone help me refresh my memory?

[Jaltus]

Dispies believe in splitting time up into....you guessed it....dispensations. Historic premills just believe in premill, no strings attached.

[Dee Dee Warren]

And Jaltus, am I correct in saying that historic premils see the Church as the continuation of Israel as well? Or am I wrong?

[Jaltus]

There is variation on that one. I have not made up my mind on it, but GP does not see a continuation, at least in terms of the land grant promises.

[Carl Smuda]

My limited memory to resond to Dee Dee's question is based on what I can recall from the first parts of J.N.D.Kelly's book 'Early Christian Doctrines.' and maybe a few others...

Please help me out here, but, the early church fathers saw Christ on just about every page of the septuigent. They saw Christ as the fulfillment of promises told by the ancient Prophets. And the juicy details are in the books but as of now beyond my grasp. But, They saw Christ's Church as the fulfillment of many things, according to Kelly, it was a given that Christ was the God of the OT. Well, the Jews rejected Jesus as the Anointed One and the Gentile Church began to see the Christian Faith as the replacement of Judaism.

I am not clear on "continuation." And all due respects I care not if "replacement" hurts some Messianic Jews' feelings.

Now, then, I guess...simmer for 300 years and Origen (and the like) questioned the validity of the historical millennialism. "Those guys" missed it on the first coming of the Saviour, maybe they cannot be trusted for the second coming either? So...i guess...what evolved was Amillennialism.

Anyone?...anyone?...

respectfully,
Carl

[Dee Dee Warren]

Dear Carl:

If you take a look in the dispensationalism thread there is a thread on the church being spiritual Israel... I posted an article there by Reverend Klett which I think really well describes the idea of the church as Isreal.

[Carl Smuda]

OK