Millennial flavors

[Dee Dee Warren]

Hitch, where has Elect Lady gotten off to?

[jabberwocky]

I'm an amillennial, but the guys in this story are dispensationalist premilliennials.

[Dee Dee Warren]

I am a recovering dispie premill.

[jabberwocky]

I am a recovering dispie premill.

You poor thing!

[Glenn P]

03-18-2003 @ 03:56 AM post located here
RightIdea:


Logical fallacy, your presupposition that dispensational futurism isn't the correct view. IF it is the correct view, then it is biblical and older than any other view.

Your assumptions are showing.

That's the strangest thing i've ever seen. Even leading dispensational writers (back in the days when there were some) are frank and honest in admitting that no theological writers were fully dipensational until WAY after the Reformation. They just assume that the church totally screwed up its eschatology as soon as it entered the second century and finally recovered with the help of modern fundamentalism!

[Carl Smuda]

Theonomy,
I second that. No evidence of dispensational theology until, well you know, Glasgow Scotland. Darby, Macdonald, Irving? Scofield...etc. What really gets me is the quote the dispy's have drudged up from a Greek Christian Saint. St. Ephraim? I've seen the same dumb quote three times now but no one provides context. Just like dispensational must defend imaginary verses in canon the same attitude is applied to Church History! i.e. It must be there, just cause there is no evidence of such doesn't mean it aint there somewheres.

God Bless all who read here in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
respectfully,
Carl

[Bill the Cat]

Boy are we Dispies getting smeared????

[Bill the Cat]

BTW, that's no one I know. I found the pic on the net..... Public domain and all

[Carl Smuda]

Sorry Bill-the-cat. All in good Christian brotherhood fun, hey what? :rockon: I've some Dispensational friends whose opinions I respect highly. Cepten they know I think little of the dispy-land stuff. But they know I'm from the same kettle. I suppose, like Dee-Dee, I'm a recovering Dispy-Premill.

By 1990 I had already jettisoned the pre-trib-rapture. It would be another ten years before I hit upon the Amillennial and Postmillennial views. I find is funny that in the late 1980's I actually read a preterist book on prophecy and didn't even realize it. I simply read it and mentioned to several Dispy friends that, "hey, this book says the great trib has passed already, huh..."

Bill-the-Cat, Have you read anything that compares the four views of the "millennium"?

respectfully,
Carl

[Bill the Cat]

Today @ 12:58 PM post located here
Carl Smuda:


Bill-the-Cat, Have you read anything that compares the four views of the "millennium"?

respectfully,
Carl

No, but I've read books on pre trib, pre-wrath, and post trib. I also read Days of Vengence, and was not really impressed (no offense). Do you have a recommendation?

Oh and for being so respectful, have some pearls!!

[Carl Smuda]

Bill the cat,
"The Bible and the Future" by Anthony A. Hoekema. I really enjoyed reading this work. Several chapters I read repeatedly. A few I plan to return to for deeper study. He really does a wonderful job explaining inaugurated eschatology, realized eschatology (which is what he thought Amillennialism should be called) and he goes into detail on Dispensationalism and Postmillennialism and the Return of Christ and many issues of these things to come. The reason I kept returning to it over-and-over because I could read a chapter and think about it or look up some Bible passages on my own, and then go back and read the other chapters on the OTHER views. Send me a snail mail address and I'd be happy to send you a copy?

sincerely,
Carl

[Bill the Cat]

I sent you a PM carl.

[Carl Smuda]

Got'cha. Thank you.

[Trinitarian]

I'm a Historic Premill, we're hopeful pessimists on a mission.

[Carl Smuda]

Trinitarian,
God Bless you in the name of Jesus Christ! A Trinitarian that smokes a pipe AND is historical premillennial to boot. My, my..

My hat's off to you dude. Tell me, do you have any thoughts on realized millenium? i.e. what, if anything, do you see in the abundant life now that He came to give us, as a little piece of the kingdom? I'm equating the coming kingdom of God with the millennium.

sincerely,
Carl