View Poll Results: What is your Millennial View
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Historic Premillennial
38 13.92% -
Dispensational Premillennial
44 16.12% -
Amillennial
107 39.19% -
Postmillennial
57 20.88% -
Pan-millennial
10 3.66% -
What is the Millennium?
17 6.23%
Thread: Millennial flavors
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June 30th 2003, 03:31 PM #106I would defintately see the Kingdom as an 'Already/Not Yet.' It is inaugurated in the present but awaits ultimate fulfilment. I have been very influenced by George Elddon Ladd in this respect.Today @ 05:20 PM post located here
Carl Smuda:
Trinitarian,
God Bless you in the name of Jesus Christ! A Trinitarian that smokes a pipe AND is historical premillennial to boot. My, my..
My hat's off to you dude. Tell me, do you have any thoughts on realized millenium? i.e. what, if anything, do you see in the abundant life now that He came to give us, as a little piece of the kingdom? I'm equating the coming kingdom of God with the millennium.
sincerely,
CarlThe Church is an entity which has outlasted many states, nations, and empires and it will outlast those that exist today…In spite of the crimes, blunders, compromises and errors by which its story is stained and stained to this day, the Church is the great reality in comparison with which nations and empires and civilizations are passing phenomena. The Church can never settle down to being a voluntary society concerned merely with private and domestic affairs. It is bound to challenge in the name of the one Lord all the powers, ideologies, myths, assumptions and worldviews which do not acknowledge him as Lord. If that involves conflict, trouble and rejection, then we have the example of Jesus before us and his reminder that a servant is not greater than his master. ~Lesslie Newbigin
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July 9th 2003, 12:35 AM #107LMBO06-27-2003 @ 05:39 PM post located here
Trinitarian:
I'm a Historic Premill, we're hopeful pessimists on a mission.Sowetannedhishidewhenhediedclyde;andthereitisahangin'ontheshed;alltogethernow...
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July 9th 2003, 01:07 AM #108
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July 9th 2003, 01:08 AM #109
Well... I picked historic pre-mil because I'm no longer a dispy pre-millenialist, and it was the only other pre-millenialist view.
I think I read Revelation a bit more literally than most people do, and I'm therefore a post-trib. premillenialist.
I used to be dispy, because Hagee made such a convincing claim in "from daniel to doomsday" (as I already stated in a different room)...but I no longer believe in the pre-trib rapture, and am therefore no longer dispie.
I don't really know what historic pre-millenial is...but I guess as a post trib premillenialist...it's what I am.
"Whenever the devil harasses you, seek the company of men or drink more, or joke and talk nonsense, or do some other merry thing. Sometimes we must drink more, sport, recreate ourselves, and even sin a little to spite the devil, so that we leave him no place for troubling our consciences with trifles. We are conquered if we try too conscientiously not to sin at all. So when the devil says to you: do not drink, answer him: I will drink, and right freely, just because you tell me not to."
-Martin Luther-
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July 9th 2003, 07:42 PM #110Why don't I know what this means? I thouht I was web-savy
The Church is an entity which has outlasted many states, nations, and empires and it will outlast those that exist today…In spite of the crimes, blunders, compromises and errors by which its story is stained and stained to this day, the Church is the great reality in comparison with which nations and empires and civilizations are passing phenomena. The Church can never settle down to being a voluntary society concerned merely with private and domestic affairs. It is bound to challenge in the name of the one Lord all the powers, ideologies, myths, assumptions and worldviews which do not acknowledge him as Lord. If that involves conflict, trouble and rejection, then we have the example of Jesus before us and his reminder that a servant is not greater than his master. ~Lesslie Newbigin
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July 10th 2003, 11:40 AM #111
laughing my butt off
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July 10th 2003, 04:31 PM #112Ahh...excellent.The Church is an entity which has outlasted many states, nations, and empires and it will outlast those that exist today…In spite of the crimes, blunders, compromises and errors by which its story is stained and stained to this day, the Church is the great reality in comparison with which nations and empires and civilizations are passing phenomena. The Church can never settle down to being a voluntary society concerned merely with private and domestic affairs. It is bound to challenge in the name of the one Lord all the powers, ideologies, myths, assumptions and worldviews which do not acknowledge him as Lord. If that involves conflict, trouble and rejection, then we have the example of Jesus before us and his reminder that a servant is not greater than his master. ~Lesslie Newbigin
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July 11th 2003, 01:27 AM #113
also known as --->
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August 18th 2003, 10:53 AM #114
you tell me
Hey,
I don't know what I am. Give me a label and then I'll know. I am just a lowly custodian who knows nothing except cleaning toilets behind the learned and spiritual giants of the church. I don't like to pick fights, I'm too lovable for that, but I do seem to get black eyes anyway. Any advice? I suppose I am premillennial, somewhat, but modified dispensational. I hate labels. (Are we not right in saying that thou art a Samaritan and hast a devil?) I like the spiritual application of the preterist but feel they go too far in doing away with the physical side of things. There will we a physical/spiritual restoration of "Israel after the flesh" at which time they will become one with the church. The church is God's central plan for eternity. Jesus is the Builder and very essence [Material] (in us as spiritual stones)] of the church. Jesus today is manifested in the church as the life giving Spirit. "Now the Lord is that Spirit". I do not think that any individual can answer all the tough questions but the church who is the fulness of Him who fills all in all can find the answers in Him.
Pleasant debating,
asaphHe that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
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August 24th 2003, 10:59 AM #115
Re: you tell me
Maybe we can cure you of that premill stuff08-18-2003 @ 10:53 AM post located here
asaph:
Hey,
I don't know what I am. Give me a label and then I'll know. I am just a lowly custodian who knows nothing except cleaning toilets behind the learned and spiritual giants of the church. I don't like to pick fights, I'm too lovable for that, but I do seem to get black eyes anyway. Any advice? I suppose I am premillennial, somewhat, but modified dispensational.
You have met the wrong preterists, apparently the heretical version which is more properly labeled NeoHymenaeanism. Orthodox preterists do not do away with the physical side of things, and even more so, postmill preterists do not, which I am.I hate labels. (Are we not right in saying that thou art a Samaritan and hast a devil?) I like the spiritual application of the preterist but feel they go too far in doing away with the physical side of things.
Amen. You are not dispensational by the way, what you articulated about Israel is antithetical to dispensationalism which holds to two distinct peoples of God which I also reject.
There will we a physical/spiritual restoration of "Israel after the flesh" at which time they will become one with the church. The church is God's central plan for eternity. Jesus is the Builder and very essence [Material] (in us as spiritual stones)] of the church. Jesus today is manifested in the church as the life giving Spirit. "Now the Lord is that Spirit". I do not think that any individual can answer all the tough questions but the church who is the fulness of Him who fills all in all can find the answers in Him.Nochyu mokraya ptitsa nikogda ne letaet.
A wet bird never flies at night. -unknown [old Russian proverb]
Eudyptes: you are....as usual....100% correct
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September 5th 2003, 06:01 AM #116
Re: you tell me
Hey Asaph ... Hitch told me who you are from CU08-18-2003 @ 10:53 AM post located here
asaph:
I was SherBear there (pre-forum crash)
Welcome to TWeb ... hope you'll hang around ... we're a good bunch here.
Sher
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September 5th 2003, 06:02 AM #117
/ot Sher, weren't you sherbear here for a while? And were you on Baptist Board?

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September 20th 2003, 05:24 PM #118
What else could I be...?
Dispensational Premillenial...most definetely. Mmm Mmm good...
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October 2nd 2003, 09:54 AM #119
Non Mill'er...partial preterist, Tuesday...I think to my self...hmm...amill sounds good...Wednesday...I think to my self..no postmill sounds good...well amill is more has been held by the most of the church for centuries, I believe that postmill is more scriptural...and compatible with my partial preterist convictions...tough call really...
A Confessing Reformed Protestant Partial Preterist...
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October 25th 2003, 11:14 AM #120
amill up in the hizzy
DISREGARD EVERYTHING I'VE SAID HERE, DISREGARD EVERYTHING I'VE SAID HERE, DISREGARD EVERYTHING I'VE SAID HERE, DISREGARD EVERYTHING I'VE SAID HERE.
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