View Poll Results: What is your position on the timing of the Great Tribulation?
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Futurist
88 34.78% -
Historicist
22 8.70% -
Orthodox Preterist
99 39.13% -
Complete double fulfillment
20 7.91% -
Have no clue, pass the peanuts
24 9.49%
Thread: Tribulational Flavors
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March 19th 2003, 08:52 PM #46
Who are you talking to Efta?
Nochyu mokraya ptitsa nikogda ne letaet.
A wet bird never flies at night. -unknown [old Russian proverb]
Eudyptes: you are....as usual....100% correct
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March 19th 2003, 08:53 PM #47
Just kidding RI!!!Nochyu mokraya ptitsa nikogda ne letaet.
A wet bird never flies at night. -unknown [old Russian proverb]
Eudyptes: you are....as usual....100% correct
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March 19th 2003, 09:04 PM #48
What does an open-theist believe? Or what is the open view?
Volo anaticulam cumminosam meam!
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March 24th 2003, 01:47 PM #49I think I might be under that persuasion too. What events would not be repeated in the future?02-13-2003 @ 09:05 PM located here
Jaltus:
I would fall into the double fulfillment, though not a total double."I've gone off to find myself. If you see
me before I come back, please ask me
to wait. "
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March 24th 2003, 03:03 PM #50No, sorry that's not one of the choices. You can't ask that sort of thing in here.03-19-2003 @ 05:04 PM located here
Woman:
What does an open-theist believe? Or what is the open view?
kidding. Woman, they believe that God cannot see everything that is going to happen. the possibilities are open, not closed. No elect or predestination. And I'm not even emotionally ready to even think about how they explain prophecy.
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March 24th 2003, 03:08 PM #51RRRHHNNNNN! Wrong, Carl. Sorry! Why must you misrepresent what Open Theists believe? Are you really so afraid of our views?Today @ 12:03 PM located here
Carl Smuda:
No, sorry that's not one of the choices. You can't ask that sort of thing in here.
kidding. Woman, they believe that God cannot see everything that is going to happen. the possibilities are open, not closed. No elect or predestination. And I'm not even emotionally ready to even think about how they explain prophecy.
Anyone who doesn't believe in election and predestination must deny God's word, itself. The Bible obviously refers to election and predestination. The simple explanation is that Open Theists (and many non-OVers as well, particularly dispensationalists) believe in election and predestination on a corporate or humanity-wide level, not on an individual level.Thanks for your patience in the thread's I have previously committed myself to. Things are still difficult and topsy-turvy here, and I may actually start work somewhere this week (strong likelihood), so I'll do my best to answer some of those threads! See you in the forums...
When even our Christian leadership has committed to a strategy of compromising on "Do not murder" by supporting judges [like Alito], politicians [like Bush] and rulings that explicitly will kill certain innocent children, it is absurd for us to ask God to bless America. -- Bob Enyart, 1/18/06
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March 24th 2003, 03:44 PM #52RightIdea, okay. Thank you. And good point. I don't know the OV well. I apologize for acusing the movement of denying election and predestination. It sounds best for you to tell the good woman the correct answer.Today @ 11:08 AM located here
RightIdea:
RRRHHNNNNN! Wrong, Carl. Sorry! Why must you misrepresent what Open Theists believe? Are you really so afraid of our views?
Anyone who doesn't believe in election and predestination must deny God's word, itself. The Bible obviously refers to election and predestination. The simple explanation is that Open Theists (and many non-OVers as well, particularly dispensationalists) believe in election and predestination on a corporate or humanity-wide level, not on an individual level.
very respectfully,
Carl
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April 19th 2003, 05:58 AM #53
I am a futurist. But I may be leaning to double fulfillment. I love Hilton Sutton. I think he treats the future tribulation idea more fairly than LaHay or some of the others. Not nearly as fanciful or science-fictional. I've read DD and JP's articles on preterism and I don't necessarily disagree with their interpretations, but I think there will be a universal grand fulfillment that involves all mankind, not just the Jews
I may not yet be as old as dirt, but dirt and I are starting to have an awful lot in common... Stephen Donaldson - Author of my favorite series (The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant)
S'cuse me... oops, I'm sorry... I didn't see your sign - Bill Engvall
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April 22nd 2003, 02:30 AM #54
I am a Preterist also, and a new member of these forums, so don't jump on me without an introduction first, please.
ożÔ¬
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April 22nd 2003, 09:57 AM #55Actually sacre, I think that there are a disproportiantely large number of preterist at tweb (compared to the general evangelical population).Today @ 02:30 AM post located here
sacre:
I am a Preterist also, and a new member of these forums, so don't jump on me without an introduction first, please.
So welcome.
Have a banana from a fellow preterist.
Where is human nature so weak as in the bookstore?- Henry Ward Beecher
"I agree fully with all Faramir has said" - Dee Dee Warren
“Duty…is the sublimest word in our language. Do your duty in all things…. You cannot do more; you should never wish to do less.” -- Robert E. Lee
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April 22nd 2003, 09:58 AM #56Like Karl Barth?03-24-2003 @ 07:08 PM post located here
RightIdea:
The simple explanation is that Open Theists (and many non-OVers as well, particularly dispensationalists) believe in election and predestination on a corporate or humanity-wide level, not on an individual level.
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April 22nd 2003, 10:32 AM #57
Thanks for the banana and the welcome, Faramir. As to the "disproportion" business: why should we be surprised at the theological purity of the church? By the grace of God, the proportion will continue to shift in the direction of truth.
Godspeed,
R.ożÔ¬
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April 22nd 2003, 10:37 AM #58
Welcome, sacre!
The link to the Homepage in your profile here at TWeb seems to be broken. Is that fixable?
הִנֵּה מַה־טּוֹב וּמַה־נָּעִים שֶׁבֶת אַחִים גַּם־יָחַד
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April 22nd 2003, 12:38 PM #59
Thank you, John Reece. I just clicked on the link in my profile, and it worked for me. I'm not sure what the problem is. http://www.biblestudy.wxs.org
Regards,
R. McIntyreożÔ¬
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April 22nd 2003, 01:23 PM #60
Works for me now.
Thanks.הִנֵּה מַה־טּוֹב וּמַה־נָּעִים שֶׁבֶת אַחִים גַּם־יָחַד
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