Tribulational Flavors

[John Reece]

Today @ 02:39 PM post located here
Solly:

It was only in the area of preterism that I made that comment John, I didn't know your other allegiances.

Tony

Allegiances? What allegiances?

Don't you know "heritics" don't have allegiances?

Ah, I should not joke about it . . .

[Dee Dee Warren]

Yesterday @ 08:57 PM post located here
Hitch:

So see above on Rev 1:1 which, if soon means soon, then it all has happened, and that makes for full preterism.

Come on Cat, that makes no sense. Let's put it out of Revelation and use our noodle. If I were to prophesy that a decade of prosperity was to begin for you "soon" what would you expect? You would expect that the decade would beging soon right? Would you expect it to end soon just because it began soon? Come on!! Revelation says that the events are soon. One of the events is a "thousand year" period. What does that tell you? The beginning of the thousand years was soon, the end was at least a thousand years away (no matter how you interpret "thousand"). So your objection holds no water whatsoever.

Come on Cat I know we can expect better of you than this one.

H

I agree. It is just hand-waving the time texts away.

[Dee Dee Warren]

/ot somehow my avatar just seems wrong on several levels having this conversation

[Dee Dee Warren]

Today @ 09:46 AM post located here
John Reece:



Allegiances? What allegiances?

Don't you know "heritics" don't have allegiances?

Ah, I should not joke about it . . .

I have a very disobedient swarm, and Solly is the one that got away

[Bill the Cat]

Today @ 10:01 AM post located here
Dee Dee Warren:




Come on Cat, that makes no sense. Let's put it out of Revelation and use our noodle. If I were to prophesy that a decade of prosperity was to begin for you "soon" what would you expect? You would expect that the decade would beging soon right? Would you expect it to end soon just because it began soon? Come on!! Revelation says that the events are soon. One of the events is a "thousand year" period. What does that tell you? The beginning of the thousand years was soon, the end was at least a thousand years away (no matter how you interpret "thousand"). So your objection holds no water whatsoever.



I agree. It is just hand-waving the time texts away.

......aaaahhh, too many words, too little time to post them. My sincerest apologies for not giving my reply my all.

[John Reece]

Today @ 03:09 PM post located here
Dee Dee Warren:

I have a very disobedient swarm, and Solly is the one that got away

[Solly]

[Hitch]

05-07-2003 @ 01:44 PM post located here
Bill the Cat:



1) Thanks, I appreciate your confidence in my ability
2) I told you guys I didn't have lots of time to extrapolate
3) Is this or is this not a "time text"?
4) Why couldn't the destruction of Jerusalem be a prefigure of a destruction on a more grand scale?
5) Man I wish I had more time!!

Why expect 'destruction on a more grand scale'? Didnt Jesus promise growth on a grand scale?

Jesus has long since conquered the world and destroyed the works of the devil. Now its time for growth and the historical realization of God's blessing in the lives of Covenant Keepers and his wrath on covenant breakers. The 'destruction' neccessary for the continued growth of the Kingdom of God was accomplished in full by Christ.

Take care

Hitch

[Dee Dee Warren]

Amen!!! Why are we so enamored with torching the earth?

[John Reece]

Today @ 12:56 AM post located here
Hitch:

Why expect 'destruction on a more grand scale'? Didnt Jesus promise growth on a grand scale?

Jesus has long since conquered the world and destroyed the works of the devil. Now its time for growth and the historical realization of God's blessing in the lives of Covenant Keepers and his wrath on covenant breakers. The 'destruction' neccessary for the continued growth of the Kingdom of God was accomplished in full by Christ.

Take care

Hitch

Spot on Hitch .



'Glad to see you using the quote button. Without it, I had some difficulty figuring out when you were quoting someone, and when you were responding to someone.

[Bill the Cat]

Yesterday @ 07:56 PM post located here
Hitch:

Why expect 'destruction on a more grand scale'? Didnt Jesus promise growth on a grand scale?

Jesus has long since conquered the world and destroyed the works of the devil. Now its time for growth and the historical realization of God's blessing in the lives of Covenant Keepers and his wrath on covenant breakers. The 'destruction' neccessary for the continued growth of the Kingdom of God was accomplished in full by Christ.

Take care

Hitch

So where is the prophecied peace in the Animal Kingdom?

[Dee Dee Warren]

Who says that is to be taken in a wooden literal sense? That is like asking when did the stars fall from the sky in Matthew 24.

[John Reece]

Yesterday @ 11:09 PM post located here
Dee Dee Warren:

Who says that is to be taken in a wooden literal sense? That is like asking when did the stars fall from the sky in Matthew 24.

Yes, Dee Dee .

[Bill the Cat]

and why not take it in a literal sense? Was it not that way in Eden?

[Jacob]

05-09-2003 @ 11:09 PM post located here
Dee Dee Warren:

Who says that is to be taken in a wooden literal sense? That is like asking when did the stars fall from the sky in Matthew 24.

You're right, it doesn't have to be taken in a "wooden literal sense". Neither do we need to take Mt 24:33-34 in a "wooden literal sense":

Mat 24:33 so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door.
Mat 24:34 "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.

But the question is why do you suggest that we put aside the normal literal meaning and assume figurative speech?
If the prophecies of "peace in the animal kingdom" are not to be taken in a "wooden literal" sense, what do you think they refer to? How are they fullfilled?

Jacob