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      The Importance of Condescending For the Faith.

      Since we as Christians are failing miserably when it comes to being properly equipped and correctly focused on the right ways to contend for our faith, it is imperative that we use all means available to make our faith fly.

      No, it does not mean we as Christians need to run around with our arms flapping, attempting to fly above our problems, and above the severe opposition from every direction ripping at the very fabric of our holiness across this great land founded on God's Word.

      How do I know "We as Christians" are thusly failing? It is just an innate sense I have, and kinda a strong and sincere vision I think I have. I also feel qualified to make presumptuous and expansive monologues for fellow believers to read in amazement.

      I strongly believe with all my heart that using words to lead people is the only way change can happen. Jesus led by example 2000 years ago, but that was 2000 years ago, and things and people are different now, although the message of the Gospel remains unchanged. We must be ready at this, our finest hour, to adjust to the ever changing mindset of lost people needing to hear Hope.

      So, I talk about the Church to a few Believers, and thereby, in faith, can correctly expect to see real changes in the Church all over this Nation, and around the World. Besides that, I am a Youth Minister, and am proud of it. I face some of the keenest minds on Earth when I present God's Truth before my Youth Group. Jesus was a Youth at one time. How do I know? My Bible says it. You can take it or leave it.

      History will show that the following reasons compel us as Believers to Condescend For the Faith:

      1.) It is imperative to follow the example of the marching Army of condescenting and patronizing Professional Church Talkers.

      2.) Condescension gives strong evidence for a superior position, a position given to us by God to talk about either directly, or couched in rhetoric. Whatever works.

      3.) It helps lay people stay in their correct position, that of supporting their leadership, something different than shown in Scripture. But Scripture was written 2000 years ago, and our culture is here with us now, not back there.

      4.) Condescension can be modulated at will, by gifted manipulators of trusting and gullible Believers. A little here, a lot there, all professionally and adeptly done.

      5.) It is a base level for addressing all other nonmonothestic religions. We can rest assurred we have the Truth on our side, all else is inferior, and our expansion of the Truth goes hand in hand with the Truth itself. Some wise person has called this "The Anointing."

      6.) We have irrefutable historic precedence in the Roman catholic organization for the effectiveness of condescension. It is the only thing which kept some popes afloat, a guy in a sparkley dress, living with men only, in gaudy palaces as the Vicar of Christ, whose spiritual sons someday would be called "The Holy Father" by Billy Graham. Could not have happened without condescension.

      7.) Being made in God's image and justified before Him, we are superior to those not in our position before the Father, and our proclamations, pursuits, and expectations, all in Faith of course, are thereby superior as well. We also have superior integrity of purpose. Our sincerity is more sincere because we are on the Rock.

      8.) Many people are bossy and assertive by personal nature, and when they find the Lord, Christian Condescension provides a very good way for them to be themselves and how they are, as God made them to be a person. They can use their talents for God.

      9.) Many people, as well, are naturally meek and wimpy. When they make up their minds about following Jesus, it is just a small step to become wimpy and condescending with Big Jesus, or an Angel or two, standing behind them.

      10.) Many Christians like to be condescended to. Perhaps they were raised by a strong woman who mixed condescension with a sense of well being, and stood over them with arms akimbo while eating lunch. Or, perhaps they were beaten by a cruel sibling, and told they will always be weak and dependent on strong people, and were adopted. Or, perhaps they think the big strong Bible wants them to be under a big strong Church Talker, and they do not want to make problems. But, Jesus knows all of their hearts, and He loves them.

      11.) Our Fathers of the Faith, Tertullian, the 12 Apostles, Irinaeus, Paul of Tarsus, Fabian, Jairus, Moses, Abraham, John the Baptiser, all had long beards to signify their authority. Today, our society, though certainly not without beards, has been blessed by God's provision of advanced metallurgy and industrial production such that men can shave. Therefore, it is necessary today for a Believing Church Leader to only speak confidently about revered guys with beards to project bearded and condescending authority. Progressive Revelation and progressive grooming go hand in hand for God's Glory.

      Our world as Believers would fall apart if skilled condescenders were not faithful in their task of holding the reins of authority within God's Kingdom on Earth, firmly, but gently. In a sense of Love.

      JoLonda.

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      Re: The Importance of Condescending For the Faith.

      Since I as a Christian troll am failing miserably when it comes to making a point and correctly acting like a respectable member of TWeb, it is imperative that I use all means available to make my big mouth heard.

      No, it does not mean I as a Pharisee and a troll need to run around with my keyboard blazing, attempting to convince someone, anyone, that I know what I am talking about, and use $2 words to try to confuse the opposition with my vain attempts at logic.

      How do I know "I as a Pharisee" am thusly failing? It is just an innate sense I have, that everyone has an answer for my drivel, and I’m too blind and stupid to get it. I also feel qualified as an agent of something or another to make presumptuous and expansive monologues for fellow believers to read in amazement that so much gas can come from someone that hasn’t even declared a gender. But it isn't over yet.

      I strongly believe with all my heart that using arrogance to criticize people attempting to help some in the Church is the only way change can happen. Jesus was humble 2000 years ago, but that was 2000 years ago, and things and people are different now, although the message of humility remains unchanged. We must be ready at this, our finest hour, to adjust to the ever changing mindset of Christians needing to hear that only I, J-Lo, have it right. Fear me and tremble…

      So, I run my trap about the Church and anyone trying to help it to anyone who will listen, and thereby, in faith, can correctly expect to see real changes in Professional Church Talkers all over this Nation, and around the World. Besides that, I am a Professional Internet Talker with years of material I collect to degrade anyone who will read my drivel, and am proud of it. I face some of the keenest minds on Earth when I present God's Truth before the internet debate boards, doing nothing REAL to help anyone who needs it. Jesus came for the sick, after all. I am well, so I got it from here, Big J…

      History will show that the following reasons compel us as Pharisees to Condescend anyone trying to help anyone in the church:

      1.) It is imperative to follow the example of the lazy internet “my poo doesn’t stink” Pharisee.

      2.) Arrogance gives strong evidence for a superior position of knowledge, a position given to us by God to slam anyone who isn’t being led by me, the Almighty J-Lo.

      3.) It helps those “Church talkers” to stay in their correct position, that of conducting a mime service; never mind that the Word is supposed to be proclaimed. But Scripture was written 2000 years ago, and miming is here with us now, not back there.

      4.) Arrogance can be modulated at will, by gifted manipulators like me who post just enough to make someone agree with a single point. A little here, a lot there, and suddenly, see! I’m credible. I even got a Post of the Day!!

      5.) Arrogance allows me to ignore all other non-monotheistic religions. I can rest assured I have the Truth on my side, and all else is inferior to my calling to rabidly attack anyone who DARES utter a word in church. My expansion of this Truth goes hand in hand with the Truth itself. Some wise person (probably me, since I’m always right) has called this "The Great Mime Commission!"

      6.) I have irrefutable historic precedence in the Jewish Pharisee organization for the effectiveness of arrogance. It is the only thing which kept some mimes afloat,


      7.) Being made in God's image and justified before Him, I are superior to those not in the know, like I am, with Jesus, (I get to call him by his first name… we’re tight like that) and my rabid pursuit of talkers in church is in Faith of course, and is thereby superior to any other calling listed in the Bible. I also have superior patience and would NEVER give an insult like Jesus did. I know more than even He does, obviously. My sincerity is more sincere because I am arrogant, and that’s all I need.

      8.) Many people are bossy and assertive by personal nature, and would make fine additions to me, but they would still not be me, because I have it all right, and they don’t. But they can still use their talents to serve me.

      9.) Many people, as well, are naturally meek and wimpy. They are GREAT targets and must be made to feel insignificant at all costs, or else I risk having to actually make a point. Lucky that hasn’t ever happened, so I am secure to just post my usual garbage and watch as everyone tells me I am dumb.

      10.) Many Christians like to be arrogant too. But they can never be me, as I may or may not be a woman or a man… I’ll never tell. Why am I like this? Because I am a Pharisee, like it or not!

      11.) I don’t know anything about the Fathers of the Faith, Tertullian, the 12 Apostles, Irenaeus, Paul of Tarsus, Fabian, Jairus, Moses, Abraham, John the Baptiser, so they can’t bring them up. If they do, I just look at the fact that they wrote something, and can declare them “professional church talkers”. Today, this culture has been blessed by the existence of me, so that they don’t have to be subject to those babbling Church talking Church Fathers. Therefore, it is not even necessary to read the Bible, as those guys were Professional Church Talkers too. Just listen to me and my mimes to get it right.

      Our world as Believers would fall apart if I were not faithful in my task of holding the Church Talkers at bay. Fear me… love me… respect my arrogance…if you dare…

      J-Lo

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      Re: The Importance of Condescending For the Faith.

      Quote Originally posted by JoLonda
      6.) We have irrefutable historic precedence in the Roman catholic organization for the effectiveness of condescension. It is the only thing which kept some popes afloat, a guy in a sparkley dress, living with men only, in gaudy palaces as the Vicar of Christ, whose spiritual sons someday would be called "The Holy Father" by Billy Graham. Could not have happened without condescension.
      I hereby refute your irrefutable historic precedence.
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      If JoLo ever does something besdes whinning be sure and tell someone who cares.
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      Re: The Importance of Condescending For the Faith.

      Quote Originally posted by Bill the Cat
      Since I as a Christian troll am failing miserably when it comes to making a point and correctly acting like a respectable member of TWeb, it is imperative that I use all means available to make my big mouth heard.

      No, it does not mean I as a Pharisee and a troll need to run around with my keyboard blazing, attempting to convince someone, anyone, that I know what I am talking about, and use $2 words to try to confuse the opposition with my vain attempts at logic.

      How do I know "I as a Pharisee" am thusly failing? It is just an innate sense I have, that everyone has an answer for my drivel, and I’m too blind and stupid to get it. I also feel qualified as an agent of something or another to make presumptuous and expansive monologues for fellow believers to read in amazement that so much gas can come from someone that hasn’t even declared a gender. But it isn't over yet.

      I strongly believe with all my heart that using arrogance to criticize people attempting to help some in the Church is the only way change can happen. Jesus was humble 2000 years ago, but that was 2000 years ago, and things and people are different now, although the message of humility remains unchanged. We must be ready at this, our finest hour, to adjust to the ever changing mindset of Christians needing to hear that only I, J-Lo, have it right. Fear me and tremble…

      So, I run my trap about the Church and anyone trying to help it to anyone who will listen, and thereby, in faith, can correctly expect to see real changes in Professional Church Talkers all over this Nation, and around the World. Besides that, I am a Professional Internet Talker with years of material I collect to degrade anyone who will read my drivel, and am proud of it. I face some of the keenest minds on Earth when I present God's Truth before the internet debate boards, doing nothing REAL to help anyone who needs it. Jesus came for the sick, after all. I am well, so I got it from here, Big J…

      History will show that the following reasons compel us as Pharisees to Condescend anyone trying to help anyone in the church:

      1.) It is imperative to follow the example of the lazy internet “my poo doesn’t stink” Pharisee.

      2.) Arrogance gives strong evidence for a superior position of knowledge, a position given to us by God to slam anyone who isn’t being led by me, the Almighty J-Lo.

      3.) It helps those “Church talkers” to stay in their correct position, that of conducting a mime service; never mind that the Word is supposed to be proclaimed. But Scripture was written 2000 years ago, and miming is here with us now, not back there.

      4.) Arrogance can be modulated at will, by gifted manipulators like me who post just enough to make someone agree with a single point. A little here, a lot there, and suddenly, see! I’m credible. I even got a Post of the Day!!

      5.) Arrogance allows me to ignore all other non-monotheistic religions. I can rest assured I have the Truth on my side, and all else is inferior to my calling to rabidly attack anyone who DARES utter a word in church. My expansion of this Truth goes hand in hand with the Truth itself. Some wise person (probably me, since I’m always right) has called this "The Great Mime Commission!"

      6.) I have irrefutable historic precedence in the Jewish Pharisee organization for the effectiveness of arrogance. It is the only thing which kept some mimes afloat,


      7.) Being made in God's image and justified before Him, I are superior to those not in the know, like I am, with Jesus, (I get to call him by his first name… we’re tight like that) and my rabid pursuit of talkers in church is in Faith of course, and is thereby superior to any other calling listed in the Bible. I also have superior patience and would NEVER give an insult like Jesus did. I know more than even He does, obviously. My sincerity is more sincere because I am arrogant, and that’s all I need.

      8.) Many people are bossy and assertive by personal nature, and would make fine additions to me, but they would still not be me, because I have it all right, and they don’t. But they can still use their talents to serve me.

      9.) Many people, as well, are naturally meek and wimpy. They are GREAT targets and must be made to feel insignificant at all costs, or else I risk having to actually make a point. Lucky that hasn’t ever happened, so I am secure to just post my usual garbage and watch as everyone tells me I am dumb.

      10.) Many Christians like to be arrogant too. But they can never be me, as I may or may not be a woman or a man… I’ll never tell. Why am I like this? Because I am a Pharisee, like it or not!

      11.) I don’t know anything about the Fathers of the Faith, Tertullian, the 12 Apostles, Irenaeus, Paul of Tarsus, Fabian, Jairus, Moses, Abraham, John the Baptiser, so they can’t bring them up. If they do, I just look at the fact that they wrote something, and can declare them “professional church talkers”. Today, this culture has been blessed by the existence of me, so that they don’t have to be subject to those babbling Church talking Church Fathers. Therefore, it is not even necessary to read the Bible, as those guys were Professional Church Talkers too. Just listen to me and my mimes to get it right.

      Our world as Believers would fall apart if I were not faithful in my task of holding the Church Talkers at bay. Fear me… love me… respect my arrogance…if you dare…

      J-Lo

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      Bill,

      You sound kinda angry, and sarcastic.

      Is this a victory for you, or a "miserable failure?"

      JoLonda.

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      Quote Originally posted by JoLonda
      Bill,

      You sound kinda angry, and sarcastic.

      Is this a victory for you, or a "miserable failure?"

      JoLonda.
      I'm not into winning and losing. I'm into exposing Pharisees, and your pharisitical attitude is shining like the star over Bethlehem. Good thing that the wise men weren't seeking Jesus while you were around, cause they might have gotten confused.

      I am not angry either, and your projecting yours onto me won't fly. You don't scare me or make me angry. You are a fool and deserve what you are getting.
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      Quote Originally posted by Bill the Cat
      I'm not into winning and losing. I'm into exposing Pharisees, and your pharisitical attitude is shining like the star over Bethlehem. Good thing that the wise men weren't seeking Jesus while you were around, cause they might have gotten confused.

      I am not angry either, and your projecting yours onto me won't fly. You don't scare me or make me angry. You are a fool and deserve what you are getting.
      Bill,

      The Pharisees represented and promoted status quo ideology and religious institutions. I do neither.

      By definition and example from Scripture, I therefore am not a Pharisee, regardless of how you like that word, and how worked up you get about it.

      Do you represent and promote a status quo religious institution as youth leader retained in a church?

      Did you do anything today in church besides talk?

      JoLonda.

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      Re: The Importance of Condescending For the Faith.

      Quote Originally posted by JoLonda
      Bill,

      The Pharisees represented and promoted status quo ideology and religious institutions. I do neither.
      Dictionary.com lists the second definition of a Pharisee as "A hypocritically self-righteous person" That's you in a handbag, Trollanda.

      By definition and example from Scripture, I therefore am not a Pharisee, regardless of how you like that word, and how worked up you get about it.
      By definition and scripture, you most certainly are. You think yourself better than all of us, and any time someone makes a comment to help the body, like Jesus and His followers, You, like your Biblical predecessors claim that we are all talk.

      Do you represent and promote a status quo religious institution as youth leader retained in a church?
      No, that's why I write and teach to help Christians better themselves. You criticize anyone who tries to help.

      Did you do anything today in church besides talk?

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      Yes. I prayed, sang, learned, and fellowshipped. What did you do? Sit on your back side eating bonbons and gripe at the tv?
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