Transabled?

[seer]

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...working-bodies

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How is this deep seated desire or identity any different in kind from being transgendered? Wouldn't we try and fix the transabled person? Make him not want to be transabled?

[Bill the Cat]

That's just a normal expression of human physiology.


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[Jedidiah]

As long as they do not expect Government assistance because of their disability it is purely their own choice. It is clearly pathological but that does not seem to get in the way these days.

[seer]

As long as they do not expect Government assistance because of their disability it is purely their own choice. It is clearly pathological but that does not seem to get in the way these days.

But aren't we going to pay for transgender surgery under Obama care?

Obamacare Opens Door For Gender Reassignment Surgery

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5711267.html

[Bill the Cat]

But aren't we going to pay for transgender surgery under Obama care?

Obamacare Opens Door For Gender Reassignment Surgery

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5711267.html

Of course not. Their decision won't affect you at all!

[firstfloor]

Wouldn't we try and fix the transabled person? Make him not want to be transabled?

Maybe someone should try and fix seer. But no, on reflection, I think you are entitled to be just exactly as you are, just like everyone else. BTW, firstfloor is just back from Italy where he took a break from bringing enlightenment to the Christians and where he visited Duomo Santa Maria Annunciata in Vicenza and heard a little organ music (in case you thought I wasn’t speaking to you or something).

[seer]

Maybe someone should try and fix seer. But no, on reflection, I think you are entitled to be just exactly as you are, just like everyone else. BTW, firstfloor is just back from Italy where he took a break from bringing enlightenment to the Christians and where he visited Duomo Santa Maria Annunciata in Vicenza and heard a little organ music (in case you thought I wasn’t speaking to you or something).

he's back, oh joy...

[Cow Poke]

Of course not. Their decision won't affect you at all!

AND you can KEEP your doctor, PERIOD!

[Catholicity]

I read an article today about Renee Richards in the NY times. It was entitled The lady regrets. Dr. Richards says that She wishes there had been some kind of magical cure that stopped her from undergoing reassignment surgery and succumbing to the pressure from Therapist s media and psychiatry as well as the sexual revolution to do it. She has ceased hormones and is on a journey to actual self acceptance and now disagrees with the judge who allowed her to compete. I think with age comes wisdom though earned entirely too late in Richard's case. She does not express regret for what she has learned due to her actions though.

[Rational Gaze]

This is simply the latest in a long line of Tumblrisms. We already have 'Otherkin,' people who literally claim that they are non-human animals trapped in human bodies. Then there are those who claim to be 'non-binary persons' and get mad when people use the 'incorrect pronouns.' Such people even going to the lengths of inventing their own pronouns. I remember seeing some image of some person who claimed being referred to using the wrong pronoun was 'non-binary violence.'

Although they're all just derivatives of transsexuality, really. Incidentally, "...[t]here is no conclusive evidence that sex change operations improve the lives of transsexuals, with many people remaining severely distressed and even suicidal after the operation, according to a medical review conducted exclusively for Guardian Weekend tomorrow."
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2...P=share_btn_tw

[Raphael]

I read an article today about Renee Richards in the NY times. It was entitled The lady regrets. Dr. Richards says that She wishes there had been some kind of magical cure that stopped her from undergoing reassignment surgery and succumbing to the pressure from Therapist s media and psychiatry as well as the sexual revolution to do it. She has ceased hormones and is on a journey to actual self acceptance and now disagrees with the judge who allowed her to compete. I think with age comes wisdom though earned entirely too late in Richard's case. She does not express regret for what she has learned due to her actions though.

I read a little while ago (so I can't remember the name of the chap) an article about a chap who has now undergone TWO sex change operations, first to become a woman, and then to become a man again.

He has a very similar story and reckons that generally people making the decision to do it shouldn't be.

I'll see if I can either remember his name or find the article

[Jedidiah]

But aren't we going to pay for transgender surgery under Obama care?

Obamacare Opens Door For Gender Reassignment Surgery

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5711267.html

Yeh! Maybe it is too late for the once great United States of America.

[Jedidiah]

Maybe someone should try and fix seer. But no, on reflection, I think you are entitled to be just exactly as you are, just like everyone else. BTW, firstfloor is just back from Italy where he took a break from bringing enlightenment to the Christians and where he visited Duomo Santa Maria Annunciata in Vicenza and heard a little organ music (in case you thought I wasn’t speaking to you or something).

Oh well.

[Jedidiah]

This is simply the latest in a long line of Tumblrisms. We already have 'Otherkin,' people who literally claim that they are non-human animals trapped in human bodies. Then there are those who claim to be 'non-binary persons' and get mad when people use the 'incorrect pronouns.' Such people even going to the lengths of inventing their own pronouns. I remember seeing some image of some person who claimed being referred to using the wrong pronoun was 'non-binary violence.'

Although they're all just derivatives of transsexuality, really. Incidentally, "...[t]here is no conclusive evidence that sex change operations improve the lives of transsexuals, with many people remaining severely distressed and even suicidal after the operation, according to a medical review conducted exclusively for Guardian Weekend tomorrow."
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2...P=share_btn_tw

They were pathological before surgery, how can mutilating your body cure that?

[seer]

I think my point here, is that most rational people would try and deal with the psychological problems that a transabled person has, rather than see them have an arm or leg surgically removed. Deal with the psychological end, not the physical end. As I believe we should deal transgender people.