Ten reasons for gay-marriage

[themuzicman]

1) Everyone has the right to get married, but only to one other person, and it has to be a person, and an adult

2) Gay people have problems with long relationships, and marriage will make that better.

3) Marriage is just two people who sleep together

4) You need to give up your religous arguments, you bigot!

5) The supreme court says that marriage is a right!

6) It's legal in Vermont and the Netherlands

7) Gay people shouldn't have to go through a legal process to get medical decision making and inheritance for each other

8) But we LOVE each other!

9) There are already gay families, so we should recognize them, too!

10) This right wing conservative homophobic heterosexuals need to learn to respect homosexuals, and this will teach them!

[jellybene]

1) Everyone has the right to get married, but only to one other person, and it has to be a person, and an adult

2) Gay people have problems with long relationships, and marriage will make that better.

3) Marriage is just two people who sleep together

4) You need to give up your religous arguments, you bigot!

5) The supreme court says that marriage is a right!

6) It's legal in Vermont and the Netherlands

7) Gay people shouldn't have to go through a legal process to get medical decision making and inheritance for each other

8) But we LOVE each other!

9) There are already gay families, so we should recognize them, too!

10) This right wing conservative homophobic heterosexuals need to learn to respect homosexuals, and this will teach them!

You're Christian, right? Is the Bible your objective standard for morality?

[Darth Executor]

You're Christian, right? Is the Bible your objective standard for morality?

[Patroclus]

1) Everyone has the right to get married, but only to one other person, and it has to be a person, and an adult

One thing I like about this post is that it does a good job of pointing out the ridiculous, such as is the case with point #1.

2) Gay people have problems with long relationships, and marriage will make that better.

That's funny, because this is the same comment that my friends and I would make about couples we knew in college. No, they weren't ready, but marriage would fix that. Now, I am curious, is your sweeping generalization true universally?

3) Marriage is just two people who sleep together

Obviously, this is not the issue. Were it the issue, there would be no problem. Marriage is a legally recognized institutions with certain limitations and privileges.

4) You need to give up your religous arguments, you bigot!

Religious arguments? No, never. Political arguments, yes. Get over it.

5) The supreme court says that marriage is a right!

Of course, when you represent the privileged majority, it's fun to call it a privilege.

6) It's legal in Vermont and the Netherlands

I hope they did it just to irritate you.

7) Gay people shouldn't have to go through a legal process to get medical decision making and inheritance for each other

Dude! If they were married, there would be a legal process - MARRIAGE.

8) But we LOVE each other!

You probably sounded just as foolish when you were considering whether or not to marry your wife. But alas, people often get married because they [think they] love each other.

9) There are already gay families, so we should recognize them, too!

Would you tell the child of a gay couple that he didn't have a family?

10) This right wing conservative homophobic heterosexuals need to learn to respect homosexuals, and this will teach them!

Well, they do need to learn respect, but I doubt that anything will teach them.

[cheeto101]

1) Everyone has the right to get married, but only to one other person, and it has to be a person, and an adult

2) Gay people have problems with long relationships, and marriage will make that better.

3) Marriage is just two people who sleep together

4) You need to give up your religous arguments, you bigot!

5) The supreme court says that marriage is a right!

6) It's legal in Vermont and the Netherlands

7) Gay people shouldn't have to go through a legal process to get medical decision making and inheritance for each other

8) But we LOVE each other!

9) There are already gay families, so we should recognize them, too!

10) This right wing conservative homophobic heterosexuals need to learn to respect homosexuals, and this will teach them!

I guess ill play devils advocate on this one (im undecided actually, but Ill argue for the sake of arguing)

1) Marriage actually isnt a right, its a priviledge.
2) Why wont civil unions do?
3) It also has to do with long term commitments etc etc. If it was just people who sleep together,,,,most people would be married at 16.
4)....im not going to respond to that one, its just needlessly agressive. Come up with a better arguement
5) True
6) True,,,but niether of these are really reasons for gay marriage. Its ok to murder a woman who cheats on her husband in Saudi Arabia....does that mean its ok here?
7) Yes they shoud, everyone else, including non gay married couples do already. Its called medical insurance and wills. Civil Unions have the same benefit as a marriage in this area
8) So why isnt that love enough??
9) Civil Unions?
10) Yah it will teach them.....to resent Gays and the American justice system even more.

As i said, im still undecided. As a christian, I sort of want gay marriages to not be legal, just from the standpoint that I believe that marriage is a sacred institution between a man and a woman.

But on the other hand, I do believe in freedom and that, despite my beliefs, people should be free to live as they will. So i dunno.

[norwegen]

1) Everyone has the right to get married, but only to one other person, and it has to be a person, and an adult

Now, now. Let's not discriminate against women who wish to marry dolphins.

[bandecoot]

Now, now. Let's not discriminate against women who wish to marry dolphins.

That's more an open relationship, the Dolphin is free to seek other partners.

[Rani]

From the viewpoint of a Christian there is very little reason to try to prevent 'gay marriage'. As any Christian who is even mildly orthodox knows that morality alone will not make someone part of the body of Christ, it will not get someone to heaven, it will not fill someone with the Holy Spirit. The fact of the matter is that a person must give of their life to Christ after realizing the truth and depth of who he is, and what he did. Why should someone uphold the Holy Scriptures if they do not even believe in the existence of a Christian god? It seems fruitless to enforce. Is it not better that we focus on bringing gays to Christ and let their own convictions change their behaviors in a voluntarily way?

[themuzicman]

You're Christian, right? Is the Bible your objective standard for morality?

(In case anyone is curious, this should have had the sarcasm tags around it vis a vis Justin's arguments against gay marriage.)

[themuzicman]

From the viewpoint of a Christian there is very little reason to try to prevent 'gay marriage'. As any Christian who is even mildly orthodox knows that morality alone will not make someone part of the body of Christ, it will not get someone to heaven, it will not fill someone with the Holy Spirit. The fact of the matter is that a person must give of their life to Christ after realizing the truth and depth of who he is, and what he did. Why should someone uphold the Holy Scriptures if they do not even believe in the existence of a Christian god? It seems fruitless to enforce. Is it not better that we focus on bringing gays to Christ and let their own convictions change their behaviors in a voluntarily way?

There's a difference between allowing someone to do something, and actively supporting it. Any two people can go find a priest and take vows together. There's no law or proposed law against that.

This is about whether we as a people are going to extend the benefits and priviledges of marriage, traditionally reserved for those kinds of relationships that procreate and wish to engage in long term committment, to those who aren't able to do so.

Michael

[Rani]

There's a difference between allowing someone to do something, and actively supporting it. Any two people can go find a priest and take vows together. There's no law or proposed law against that.

This is about whether we as a people are going to extend the benefits and priviledges of marriage, traditionally reserved for those kinds of relationships that procreate and wish to engage in long term committment, to those who aren't able to do so.

Michael

So this has nothing to do with enforcing Christian morality on non-Christians? In that case it makes very little difference if their married or not, I still would give benifits to have the power to refuse to marry gays, as they are not deserving a Christian marriage if they don't follow the faith. But as far as government benifits are concerned I'm not entirely sure about the American political system but hear in Australia people are given benifits for every child they have, if this also happens in America then it makes little difference if the mariage is hetrosexual or homosexual, as such benifits are given prior to procreating.

[FatHippy]

Hi,

You've missed the most important - no arguments over whether the khazi seat is left up or down.

FatHippy

1) Everyone has the right to get married, but only to one other person, and it has to be a person, and an adult

2) Gay people have problems with long relationships, and marriage will make that better.

3) Marriage is just two people who sleep together

4) You need to give up your religous arguments, you bigot!

5) The supreme court says that marriage is a right!

6) It's legal in Vermont and the Netherlands

7) Gay people shouldn't have to go through a legal process to get medical decision making and inheritance for each other

8) But we LOVE each other!

9) There are already gay families, so we should recognize them, too!

10) This right wing conservative homophobic heterosexuals need to learn to respect homosexuals, and this will teach them!

[elysian]

My Dad says this (in jest, I think)-
"Gays should have to suffer just like the rest of us."

[Jedidiah]

(In case anyone is curious, this should have had the sarcasm tags around it vis a vis Justin's arguments against gay marriage.)

It's okay. Anyone with a brain could tell without the tags. Some just ignored it.

[themuzicman]

So this has nothing to do with enforcing Christian morality on non-Christians? In that case it makes very little difference if their married or not, I still would give benifits to have the power to refuse to marry gays, as they are not deserving a Christian marriage if they don't follow the faith. But as far as government benifits are concerned I'm not entirely sure about the American political system but hear in Australia people are given benifits for every child they have, if this also happens in America then it makes little difference if the mariage is hetrosexual or homosexual, as such benifits are given prior to procreating.

Legally, the purpose of marriage is for procreation, which is essential to the continuation of any society. There's even a supreme court ruling that says just that (name escapes me at the moment.)

Michael