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  • #46
    Originally posted by Spartacus View Post
    And with fair warning, which you did not heed.
    It wasn't fair warning. And you just shouldn't misquote like that. Fair warning, under the circumstance, would have been "the following quote is deliberately out of context and is not at all talking about what it looks like at face value and there is therefore no merit to actually quoting this other than to deliberately mislead". Instead you said "I don't expect either of those quotes will quite speak for themselves to a non-Christian audience" as if the reader being a Christian would have made up for your deliberate mishandling of the quote.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Starlight View Post
      It wasn't fair warning. And you just shouldn't misquote like that. Fair warning, under the circumstance, would have been "the following quote is deliberately out of context and is not at all talking about what it looks like at face value and there is therefore no merit to actually quoting this other than to deliberately mislead". Instead you said "I don't expect either of those quotes will quite speak for themselves to a non-Christian audience" as if the reader being a Christian would have made up for your deliberate mishandling of the quote.
      What else, pray tell, might I have meant by saying that the real meaning of the Cardinal George quote might not be readily apparent other than that a surface reading- the interpretation you'd most likely jump to- would be wrong?
      Don't call it a comeback. It's a riposte.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Dimbulb View Post
        It's only really in the last 25 years that we've seen a rapid trend towards less religious belief, and most of the studies I've seen have largely attributed this to the rise of the internet - the internet has allowed people to rapidly check many religious assertions rather than simply take them on faith.
        Yeah, about that...

        Source: InformationWeek

        While the so-called "Google Generation" grew up with the Internet, having a sizable chunk of the world's information at their fingertips has failed to make them better thinkers, according to a university study.

        Young people born after 1993 are certainly familiar with computers and the Web and use both with ease, but a study conducted by the University College London found that they lacked the critical and analytical skills necessary to assess the information they found mostly through search engines.

        [...]

        For one, information literacy has not improved with the widening access to technology. Instead, the speed of Web searching means little time is spent evaluating information for relevance, accuracy, or authority.

        http://www.informationweek.com/despi.../d-id/1063505?

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        You're certainly a primary example of this given the number of junk websites you present as authoritative sources.
        Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
        But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
        Than a fool in the eyes of God


        From "Fools Gold" by Petra

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        • #49
          Originally posted by seer View Post
          I believe that is was Nietzsche, in his day, that suggested that the Church would be gone in 20 years. He was wrong.
          No, I believe that you are quoting Josh McDowell who misquoted (intentionally, I think) Nietzsche. What he actually said about Christianity is this:

          After Buddha was dead, his shadow was still shown for centuries in a cave - a tremendous, gruesome shadow. God is dead; but given the way of men, there may still be caves for thousands of years in which his shadow will be shown. -And we- we still have to vanquish his shadow, too.
          And this:

          Really unreflective people are now inwardly without Christianity, and the more moderate and reflective people of the intellectual middle class now possess only an adapted, that is to say marvelously simplified Christianity. A god who in his love arranges everything in a manner that in the end will be best for us; a god who gives to us and takes from us our virtue and our happiness, so that as a whole all is meet and fit and there is no reason for us to take life sadly, let alone exclaim against it; in short, resignation and modest demands elevated to godhead - that is the best and most vital thing that still remains of Christianity. But one should notice that Christianity has thus crossed over into a gentle moralism: it is not so much 'God, freedom and immortality' that have remained, as benevolence and decency of disposition, and the belief that in the whole universe too benevolence and decency of disposition prevail: it is the euthanasia of Christianity.
          And finally:

          Christianity came into existence in order to lighten the heart; but now it has first to burden the heart so as afterwards to be able to lighten it. Consequently it shall perish.
          This pretty much accurately describes the trajectory of Christianity in our times. If Nietzsche is correct, Christianity will be only a shadow of itself in a few hundred more years. It has already become impotent as a leading influence in society, reduced to mere campaign slogans - like kissing babies.

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          When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said 'Let us pray.' We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land. - Bishop Desmond Tutu

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