Who's looking forward to the best Pesach 5766 (4/13/2006)

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Yonah

Thank you!

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[mitzi]

For now they shall say, We have no king, because we feared not the LORD; what then should a king do to us? But there is a King, the King of Kings yea, that Certain on Christ Jesus: Now why dost thou cry out aloud? is there no king in thee? is thy counsellor perished? for pangs have taken thee as a woman in travail. Arise and thresh, O daughter of Zion: for I will make thine horn iron, and I will make thy hoofs brass: and thou shalt beat in pieces many people: and I will consecrate their gain unto the LORD, and their substance unto the Lord of the whole earth. Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever. And your eyes shall see, and ye shall say, The LORD will be magnified from the border of Israel.

In response to your post and more recent post:

In my trouble I called to the LORD, And He answered me; From the belly of Sheol I cried out, And You heard my voice. You cast me into the depths, Into the heart of the sea, the floods engulfed me; All Your breakers and billows swept over me. I thought I was driven away out of Your sight: Would I ever gaze again upon Your holy Temple? The waters closed in over me, the deep engulfed me. Weeds twined around my head. I sank to the base of the mountains; the bars of the earth closed upon me forever.Yet You brought my life up from the pit, O LORD my God!

When my life was ebbing away, I called the LORD to mind; and my prayer came before You, Into Your holy Temple. They who cling to empty folly forsake their own welfare, but I, with loud thanksgiving, Will sacrifice to You; What I have vowed I will perform. Deliverance is the LORD'S!




Stated In the Amidah:


You, O Lord, are mighty forever, You revive the
dead, You have the power to save. * You sustain the living with loving-kindnesses, You revive the dead with great mercy, You support the falling, heal the sick, set free the bound and keep faith with those who sleep in the dust. Who is like You, O doer of mighty acts? Who resembles You, a king who puts to death and restores to life, and causes salvation to flourish? And You are certain to revive the dead.

Blessed are You, O Lord, who revives the dead.


The dead can also mean individuals that are "dead" inside, spiritually! And yet there are other verses: (In this passage what is Hashem referring too. what is the plant?)

You know there is a most famous conversation (I think) between Hashem and Jonah..."4:9.Then God said to Jonah, "Are you so deeply grieved about the plant?" "Yes," he replied, "so deeply that I want to die." Then the LORD said: "You cared about the plant, which you did not work for and which you did not grow, which appeared overnight and perished overnight."

Highlighting the verse: "Are you so deeply grieved about the plant?"..... "You cared about the plant, which you did not work for and which you did not grow"


And what does Moses state in Bamidbar:


Have I conceived all this people? have I brought them forth, that Thou shouldest say unto me: Carry them in thy bosom, as a nursing-father carrieth the sucking child, unto the land which Thou didst swear unto their fathers?

Then read one last thing:(Rashi, Berei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color] 31:33)


Avraham recognizes that the true advancement of morality can only be achieved with the recognition of the other's right and ability to exercise that which makes us created in God's image: our will to decide. We are responsible for others but in the fulfillment of this responsibility, we must respect the other as another thinking self


Building individuals through community:

Moses set an example for all the generations to come. The great Jewish leaders always understood that what qualified them as leaders and teachers and what bestowed upon them the rights to power was not their charisma, brilliance, skills, or even the fact that the Almighty Himself appointed them to their position. It was, rather, the fact that deep down in their hearts, they really viewed those under their leadership as equals. They possessed a sincere belief that dignity and truth were the property of all. Insecure leaders must resort to fear and tyranny in order to ensure loyalty and secure their position. They must speak in the name of authority rather than in the name of integrity. They must remain aloof and superior and never allow the simple folk too much access to the truth. Vulnerability is too dangerous. Genuine leaders, on the other hand, gain the trust, appreciation, and affection of their people, because of their trust in the people and their unyielding faith in the majesty of every individual human being molded in the image of the Divine. This is true about all of our relationships in life. If you wish to inspire genuine loyalty, in a marriage, in the workplace, in friendships, etc., you must learn to genuinely accept the other person as an equal, conferring upon him or her the dignity you hold dear for yourself. Each one of us is a leader in some fashion, there are those who look up to us, those we influence and those who follow our lead. May we all be worthy leaders in the image of Moses so that we too can create communities imbued with the values that we hold dear, communities filled with mutual love, respect and kindness.

http://www.jstandard.com/articlerss/cat/10/

[mitzi]

In response to your post and more recent post:

In my trouble I called to the LORD, And He answered me; From the belly of Sheol I cried out, And You heard my voice. You cast me into the depths, Into the heart of the sea, the floods engulfed me; All Your breakers and billows swept over me. I thought I was driven away out of Your sight: Would I ever gaze again upon Your holy Temple? The waters closed in over me, the deep engulfed me. Weeds twined around my head. I sank to the base of the mountains; the bars of the earth closed upon me forever.Yet You brought my life up from the pit, O LORD my God!

When my life was ebbing away, I called the LORD to mind; and my prayer came before You, Into Your holy Temple. They who cling to empty folly forsake their own welfare, but I, with loud thanksgiving, Will sacrifice to You; What I have vowed I will perform. Deliverance is the LORD'S!




Stated In the Amidah:


You, O Lord, are mighty forever, You revive the
dead, You have the power to save. * You sustain the living with loving-kindnesses, You revive the dead with great mercy, You support the falling, heal the sick, set free the bound and keep faith with those who sleep in the dust. Who is like You, O doer of mighty acts? Who resembles You, a king who puts to death and restores to life, and causes salvation to flourish? And You are certain to revive the dead.

Blessed are You, O Lord, who revives the dead.


The dead can also mean individuals that are "dead" inside, spiritually! And yet there are other verses: (In this passage what is Hashem referring too. what is the plant?)

You know there is a most famous conversation (I think) between Hashem and Jonah..."4:9.Then God said to Jonah, "Are you so deeply grieved about the plant?" "Yes," he replied, "so deeply that I want to die." Then the LORD said: "You cared about the plant, which you did not work for and which you did not grow, which appeared overnight and perished overnight."

Highlighting the verse: "Are you so deeply grieved about the plant?"..... "You cared about the plant, which you did not work for and which you did not grow"


And what does Moses state in Bamidbar:


Have I conceived all this people? have I brought them forth, that Thou shouldest say unto me: Carry them in thy bosom, as a nursing-father carrieth the sucking child, unto the land which Thou didst swear unto their fathers?

Then read one last thing:(Rashi, Berei[color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color][color=red]EDITME[/color] 31:33)


Avraham recognizes that the true advancement of morality can only be achieved with the recognition of the other's right and ability to exercise that which makes us created in God's image: our will to decide. We are responsible for others but in the fulfillment of this responsibility, we must respect the other as another thinking self


Building individuals through community:

Moses set an example for all the generations to come. The great Jewish leaders always understood that what qualified them as leaders and teachers and what bestowed upon them the rights to power was not their charisma, brilliance, skills, or even the fact that the Almighty Himself appointed them to their position. It was, rather, the fact that deep down in their hearts, they really viewed those under their leadership as equals. They possessed a sincere belief that dignity and truth were the property of all. Insecure leaders must resort to fear and tyranny in order to ensure loyalty and secure their position. They must speak in the name of authority rather than in the name of integrity. They must remain aloof and superior and never allow the simple folk too much access to the truth. Vulnerability is too dangerous. Genuine leaders, on the other hand, gain the trust, appreciation, and affection of their people, because of their trust in the people and their unyielding faith in the majesty of every individual human being molded in the image of the Divine. This is true about all of our relationships in life. If you wish to inspire genuine loyalty, in a marriage, in the workplace, in friendships, etc., you must learn to genuinely accept the other person as an equal, conferring upon him or her the dignity you hold dear for yourself. Each one of us is a leader in some fashion, there are those who look up to us, those we influence and those who follow our lead. May we all be worthy leaders in the image of Moses so that we too can create communities imbued with the values that we hold dear, communities filled with mutual love, respect and kindness.

http://www.jstandard.com/articlerss/cat/10/

P.S A good article for those to read:

INSIGHT 5760 - #10

RESPONSIBILITY FOR OTHERS

http://www.nishma.org/

[BurningBush--U]

Psalms

139 1 O LORD, thou hast searched me, and known me . 2 Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off. 3 Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways. 4 For there is not a word in my tongue, but , lo, O LORD, thou knowest it altogether. 5 Thou hast beset me behind and before, and laid thine hand upon me. 6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain unto it. 7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? 8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there . 9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea; 10 Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me. 11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me. 12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee . 13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother' womb. 14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well. 15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. 16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them. 17 How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them! 18 If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake, I am still with thee. 19 Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men. 20 For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain. 21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? 22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies. 23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: 24 And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.


Psalms

91 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. 2 I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust. 3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence. 4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler. 5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; 6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday. 7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee. 8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked. 9 Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation; 10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling. 11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. 12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone. 13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet. 14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name. 15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him. 16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.


Romans

9 1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost, 2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. 3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: 4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

[mitzi]

Psalms

139 1 O LORD, thou hast searched me, and known me . 2 Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off. 3 Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways. 4 For there is not a word in my tongue, but , lo, O LORD, thou knowest it altogether. 5 Thou hast beset me behind and before, and laid thine hand upon me. 6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain unto it. 7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence? 8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there . 9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea; 10 Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me. 11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me. 12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee . 13 For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother' womb. 14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfully and wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well. 15 My substance was not hid from thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth. 16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them. 17 How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them! 18 If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake, I am still with thee. 19 Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men. 20 For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain. 21 Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? 22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies. 23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: 24 And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.


Psalms

91 1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. 2 I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust. 3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence. 4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler. 5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day; 6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday. 7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee. 8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked. 9 Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation; 10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling. 11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. 12 They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone. 13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet. 14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name. 15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him. 16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.


Romans

9 1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost, 2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. 3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: 4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

Tehillim - Chapter 34 (Psalms 34)

1. Of David, when he disguised his sanity before Abimelech, whereupon he drove him out and he departed. 2. I will bless the Lord at all times; His praise is always in my mouth. 3. My soul boasts of the Lord; may the humble hear and rejoice. 4. Declare the greatness of the Lord with me, and let us exalt His name together. 5. I sought the Lord and He answered me, and He delivered me from all my terrors. 6. They looked to Him and they became radiant, and their faces will not be ashamed.7. This poor man called and the Lord heard, and He saved him from all his troubles.8. An angel of the Lord is stationed around those who fear Him, and He saved them. 9. Comprehend and see that the Lord is good; praiseworthy is the man who takes shelter in Him.10. Fear the Lord, His holy ones; for there is no want to those who fear Him.11. Young lions suffer want and are hungry, but those who seek the Lord lack no good. 12. Come, children, hearken to me; I will teach you the fear of the Lord. 13. Who is the man who desires life, who loves days to see goodness? 14. Guard your tongue from evil and your lips from speaking deceitfully. 15. Shun evil and do good, seek peace and pursue it.16. The eyes of the Lord are to the righteous, and His ears are to their cry.17. The face of the Lord is against evildoers, to cut off their remembrance from the earth. 18. They cry out and the Lord hearkens, and He saves them from all their troubles. 19. The Lord is near to the broken-hearted, and He saves those of crushed spirit.20. Many evils befall the righteous, but the Lord saves him from them all. 21. He guards all his bones; not one of them was broken. 22. Evil will kill the wicked, and those who hate the righteous shall be accounted guilty.

23. The Lord redeems the soul of His servants, and all who take refuge in Him shall not be accounted guilty.



Hebrews 4

12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.