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2015 looking like another world record year for the global warming trend.

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  • Originally posted by Jichard View Post
    I'm pretty sure the "hockey stick" pattern is real and based on actual data. For example:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY4Yecsx_-s from 02:40 to 09:11

    The video also goes over another problem for your claim: the source it comes from. To see the problem, first note where your above your picture comes from:
    What you pasted was "Fig. 4.8", and is based on Craig Loehle's work. The problem is Loehle's work left out decades of recent global warming (as gone over in the video I linked to; see 08:14 to 09:11). So your graph isn't going to help you much, since it leaves out recent global warming.

    If you want an introduction to some of the temperature reconstructions, the following might help:
    The extra-tropical Northern Hemisphere temperature in the last two millennia: reconstructions of low-frequency variability
    http://clim-past.net/8/765/2012/cp-8-765-2012.pdf
    Here is Loehle's correction to his graph:
    "Correction to: A 2000 Year Global Temperature Reconstruction Based on Non-tree ring proxies"
    econ.ohio-state.edu/jhm/AGW/Loehle/Loehle_McC_E&E_2008.pdf

    It seems that tabibito's graph is figure 2 on page 97 of that source. The graph only goes up to 1935 and therefore leaves out much of the recent global warming.
    "Instead, we argue, it is necessary to shift the debate from the subject under consideration, instead exposing to public scrutiny the tactics they [denialists] employ and identifying them publicly for what they are."

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    • August 2015 is very hot with mixed results.

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      • Just a little update here: August's numbers are in, and it was the warmest August on the temperature record.

        http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/ta...LB.Ts+dSST.txt

        If you look at the 3 month chunks that NASA also analyzes, the 2015 figures are the warmest, tied for second, and the warmest. (NASA starts these chunks in December). So, still on track for a new record.

        August also makes it 30 years and 6 months since the last time we saw a month come in below the average temperature of 1950-1980, which NASA uses as its baseline.
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        • More hot months for September and October insure that 2015 will be the hottest year on record.

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          • Shuyna-the-Cross-Dresser's only concern is Climate Change.

            Regardless of the way the data leads.

            And arguing his Bally-hoo-hah false religion.

            We get it already.

            Pardon him, he has another lost-ticket burlesque show to attend.

            I've seen photos -- he's damnably ugly.

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            • Originally posted by klaus54 View Post
              Shuyna-the-Cross-Dresser's only concern is Climate Change.

              Regardless of the way the data leads.

              And arguing his Bally-hoo-hah false religion.

              We get it already.

              Pardon him, he has another lost-ticket burlesque show to attend.

              I've seen photos -- he's damnably ugly.
              Tone it down
              That's what
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              • Originally posted by klaus54 View Post
                Shuyna-the-Cross-Dresser's only concern is Climate Change.

                Regardless of the way the data leads.

                And arguing his Bally-hoo-hah false religion.

                We get it already.

                Pardon him, he has another lost-ticket burlesque show to attend.

                I've seen photos -- he's damnably ugly.
                Wow! It's not even a full moon tonight. Barking at the moon a little early.

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                • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                  Wow! It's not even a full moon tonight.
                  Yes it is.

                  I'm always still in trouble again

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                  • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                    Yes it is.
                    So that's why my back hair's especially thick and luxurious tonight.

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                    • Originally posted by rogue06 View Post
                      Yes it is.
                      Whoops!! I was off a night or two. This may explain klaus45 behavior. He may turn into a Troll with the advent of the full moon.

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                      • Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                        Source: http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2015/jun/15/the-latest-global-temperature-data-are-breaking-records



                        The latest global temperature data are breaking records

                        © Copyright Original Source

                        Just read this article: http://new.spectator.co.uk/2015/11/i...y-interviewed/

                        It is about a PhD scientist, among the world's most qualified, who got tossed out with yesterday's garbage because she dared to oppose the politically-correct stance on the matter. How DARE she do that!!!

                        It is yet another instance (out of many) supporting my personal observations regarding the "Climate Change" criminal fiasco (once called "Global Warming" but changed in name to make the LIE more believable). Concisely, the whole thing is an economic-politically-motivated con job that has NOTHING to do with the facts. HOWEVER ...

                        ... however, if you happen to oppose the consensus then you become EXPELLED -- yes, "expelled" in the same sense as if you oppose/deny Evolution. In fact, the similarities are eerie! In the article linked above you can substitute "Evolution" for "climate change" in many sentences and the essence remains the same.

                        Anyway, most of the people on TWeb (beginning with Dragon Breath ... oops, I mean shunyadragon) are beyond help so I leave you all with this to chew on and spit out as you surely will because ... well, because, just like Evolution, you refuse to accept anything that opposes your religious beliefs, however wrong those beliefs may be.

                        Enjoy your 'turkey' today ........ Ta-ta ...

                        Jorge

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                        • Originally posted by Jorge View Post
                          Just read this article: http://new.spectator.co.uk/2015/11/i...y-interviewed/

                          It is about a PhD scientist, among the world's most qualified, who got tossed out with yesterday's garbage because she dared to oppose the politically-correct stance on the matter. How DARE she do that!!!

                          It is yet another instance (out of many) supporting my personal observations regarding the "Climate Change" criminal fiasco (once called "Global Warming" but changed in name to make the LIE more believable). Concisely, the whole thing is an economic-politically-motivated con job that has NOTHING to do with the facts. HOWEVER ...

                          ... however, if you happen to oppose the consensus then you become EXPELLED -- yes, "expelled" in the same sense as if you oppose/deny Evolution. In fact, the similarities are eerie! In the article linked above you can substitute "Evolution" for "climate change" in many sentences and the essence remains the same.

                          Anyway, most of the people on TWeb (beginning with Dragon Breath ... oops, I mean shunyadragon) are beyond help so I leave you all with this to chew on and spit out as you surely will because ... well, because, just like Evolution, you refuse to accept anything that opposes your religious beliefs, however wrong those beliefs may be.

                          Enjoy your 'turkey' today ........ Ta-ta ...

                          Jorge
                          It would be good for you to treat climate change and biological evolution as obviously DIFFERENT concepts.

                          It would make you look far less like a scientific Luddite and Fundy cultic proselytizer.

                          P.S. On the CC side you look as dumb as Crazy Bernie Sanders with his claim that climate change is the cause of terrorism.

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                          • Originally posted by Jorge View Post
                            It is about a PhD scientist, among the world's most qualified, who got tossed out with yesterday's garbage because she dared to oppose the politically-correct stance on the matter. How DARE she do that!!!
                            I assume by "tossed out" you mean "still has her tenured faculty position".
                            "Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from trolling."

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                            • Originally posted by TheLurch View Post
                              I assume by "tossed out" you mean "still has her tenured faculty position".
                              Your correct the article is a bit hyperbole yellow journalism.

                              Spitting contest aside between scientists aside. What she believes is the observed rise in temperatures worldwide in recent history is a part of natural fluctuation that occurs over time, and she believes by 2030 the books will balance naturally with no apparent significant human influence on over all climate trends. She is definitely in a minority among scientists, just taking a wait and see and you will find out I am right. It is remotely possible that she is right, but the actual evidence of climate trends over the past centuries is clearly against her. Included is the evidence of the changes in the atmosphere by human influence in recent history.

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                              • Minor correction there.


                                Originally posted by shunyadragon View Post
                                You're correct the article is a bit hyperbole yellow journalism.
                                Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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