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      San Francisco assemblyman calls Christians "loud," "obnoxious" and "disgusting"

      And I'm sure Pee Wee and other atheists and agnostics here will mindlessly agree with him:

      http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NG6OHU6RR1.DTL

      More than 25,000 evangelical Christian youth landed Friday in San Francisco for a two-day rally at AT&T Park against "the virtue terrorism" of popular culture, and they were greeted by an official city condemnation and a clutch of protesters who said their event amounted to a "fascist mega-pep rally."

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      That's bad news to Assemblyman Mark Leno, D-San Francisco, who told counterprotesters at City Hall on Friday that while such fundamentalists may be small in number, "they're loud, they're obnoxious, they're disgusting, and they should get out of San Francisco."



      Oh, right, right, right. I'm sure PW will remind us that he's actually calling evangelical/fundamentalist Christians loud, obnoxious and disgusting and accuse me of being "dishonest."

      And judging from the first page of thumbnails of a Google images search for "san francisco gay pride," I have to ask who are the ones who are loud, obnoxious and disgusting again?

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      Re: San Francisco assemblyman calls Christians "loud," "obnoxious" and "disgusting"

      Quote Originally posted by The Laughing Man
      And I'm sure Pee Wee and other atheists and agnostics here will mindlessly agree with him:

      http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...NG6OHU6RR1.DTL

      More than 25,000 evangelical Christian youth landed Friday in San Francisco for a two-day rally at AT&T Park against "the virtue terrorism" of popular culture, and they were greeted by an official city condemnation and a clutch of protesters who said their event amounted to a "fascist mega-pep rally."

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      That's bad news to Assemblyman Mark Leno, D-San Francisco, who told counterprotesters at City Hall on Friday that while such fundamentalists may be small in number, "they're loud, they're obnoxious, they're disgusting, and they should get out of San Francisco."



      Oh, right, right, right. I'm sure PW will remind us that he's actually calling evangelical/fundamentalist Christians loud, obnoxious and disgusting and accuse me of being "dishonest."

      And judging from the first page of thumbnails of a Google images search for "san francisco gay pride," I have to ask who are the ones who are loud, obnoxious and disgusting again?

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      I am neither mindless, nor an atheist, nor an agnostic, yet based on the information I have, I agree with the Assemblyman.

      What is really funny about your post is that you condemn the Assemblyman for being judgemental, you then make judgements also.
      There's more where that came from.
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      Re: San Francisco assemblyman calls Christians "loud," "obnoxious" and "disgusting"

      Quote Originally posted by commonman
      I am neither mindless, nor an atheist, nor an agnostic, yet based on the information I have, I agree with the Assemblyman.

      What is really funny about your post is that you condemn the Assemblyman for being judgemental, you then make judgements also.
      I see you have been propery introduced to and The Laughing Man and his inherent contradictions. We call him Jinxy.

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      Re: San Francisco assemblyman calls Christians "loud," "obnoxious" and "disgusting"

      Back? This was posted last month.
      "Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.

      The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.

      And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace

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      Quote Originally posted by Darth Executor
      Back? This was posted last month.
      Dang, I missed the date. My bad.

      You mean Jinxie's not really back?

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      Quote Originally posted by commonman
      I am neither mindless, nor an atheist, nor an agnostic, yet based on the information I have, I agree with the Assemblyman.

      What is really funny about your post is that you condemn the Assemblyman for being judgemental, you then make judgements also.
      Well, as much as I usaully find Jinx' posts to be pretty vitriolic and of no purpose, I have to say that these folks are as entitled to gather and sing songs and what not as anyone else.

      Ever been in San Fran during fleet week? Now that's noisy.
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      Quote Originally posted by Soundsurfr
      Dang, I missed the date. My bad.

      You mean Jinxie's not really back?

      'fraid not. I wonder if zombie covered this event.
      "Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.

      The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.

      And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace

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      Quote Originally posted by Soundsurfr
      Dang, I missed the date. My bad.

      You mean Jinxie's not really back?

      I thought that he was back for a moment too

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      Re: San Francisco assemblyman calls Christians "loud," "obnoxious" and "disgusting"

      Let him rot in his own juices
































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      Quote Originally posted by Pilgrim
      I have to say that these folks are as entitled to gather and sing songs and what not as anyone else.
      I have to say I agree. If you do not favor of freedom of expression for those whose thoughts you find horrendous, then you do not favor freedom of expression.

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      Quote Originally posted by Lazy Agnostic
      I have to say I agree. If you do not favor of freedom of expression for those whose thoughts you find horrendous, then you do not favor freedom of expression.
      I'm not sure if I understood your intentions in this post but there is a line to be drawn when we talk of freedom of expression. Seeing nude images in public just isn't respectful to those who wish not to see it. Do it in your own home not where everyone can see it. Even seeing men in thong bottoms is abhorrent. Might as well be naked.
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      Quote Originally posted by Keepupthefire
      I'm not sure if I understood your intentions in this post but there is a line to be drawn when we talk of freedom of expression. Seeing nude images in public just isn't respectful to those who wish not to see it. Do it in your own home not where everyone can see it. Even seeing men in thong bottoms is abhorrent. Might as well be naked.
      Bonsoir Keepupthefire,

      IMO LA's comments were addressing the "thought" content and how important it is to not censure expressions of thoughts based on personal rejection or opposition to such thoughts. You will find that for most non theists or freethinkers, they hold dear such concept. Contrary to other groups who tend to only approve of the freedom to express thoughts they agree with.

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      Quote Originally posted by Minnesota
      I can go both ways.
      I'll just bet you can.

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      Sigh.

      This brings about memories of............

      The Obnoxious ACLU

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      Re: San Francisco assemblyman calls Christians "loud," "obnoxious" and "disgusting"

      the closest term to me as is would be a dualistic agnostic

      and I just find Christians as other people...
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