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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostInteresting that I've never heard that as an argument from our opponents - even with the finest legal minds and most ardent defenders of gay rights at the hearings in Austin - nobody brought that up as an issue.
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Yes, it is brought up over and over again by those who want their sin accepted. So is eating shellfish and stuff.
I think it is a way of red herring-ing the homosexual issue. We get all tied up with answering those things and lose focus on the issue at hand.
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Originally posted by mossrose View PostYes, it is brought up over and over again by those who want their sin accepted. So is eating shellfish and stuff.
I think it is a way of red herring-ing the homosexual issue. We get all tied up with answering those things and lose focus on the issue at hand.
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Originally posted by themuzicman View PostI hear it all the time from atheists and gay activists.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by themuzicman View PostYou don't seen an obvious hypocrisy in ignoring biblical teaching on marrying divorcees by marrying them, but publicly demanding that gay marriage is wrong?
I guess the bottom line, Muz -- do you consider homosexuality a sin?The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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I've stopped going to church with my parent and whenever I have questions on things I just come here or search whatever it is on Google. A while ago I came pretty close to becoming an atheist but things changed I suppose."Kahahaha! Let's get lunatic!"-Add LP
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Originally posted by Cerealman View PostI've stopped going to church with my parent and whenever I have questions on things I just come here or search whatever it is on Google. A while ago I came pretty close to becoming an atheist but things changed I suppose.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
I guess the bottom line, Muz -- do you consider homosexuality a sin?
My current church has married divorcees who I have wondered about but haven't asked. In anycase one would hope the minister attends to all that though I think they are pretty liberal on the whole. At my last church we had a case where an older man wanted to get remarried and the minister refused. It was quite sad as he had lost his wife to cancer years before and having a whole string of kids had married again and it was a bad choice and the woman was awful to his children. In the end they parted company and then much later in life he met the other lady. She was also in our church and they did make a lovely couple (I was very good friends with one of his daughters). Anyway since his ex-wife had never committed adultery or remarried and was still alive, our minister would not marry them. The minister had his say from the pulpit and then the guy got up and had his say, so everyone got to know everything. It was a lesson for all of us because some of us had never even thought about those things.Last edited by Abigail; 07-01-2015, 10:26 AM.
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Originally posted by themuzicman View PostReally? What distinguishes the Church from the culture based upon the actions of its attendees?Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by themuzicman View PostI was referring to the US church today.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by themuzicman View PostPeople who are gay (and become celibate) can certainly become mature Christians, and even hold some important positions in the Church, just as someone who formerly lived a life of sin, and was married and divorced can become mature a mature Christian and be single and celibate.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by themuzicman View PostI hear it all the time from atheists and gay activists.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Cerealman View PostI've stopped going to church with my parent and whenever I have questions on things I just come here or search whatever it is on Google. A while ago I came pretty close to becoming an atheist but things changed I suppose.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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