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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrawly View Post
    Friends, can we please concentrate on setting up a debate between BP & AP? I think both parties are willing, and we'll all benefit from the interaction.
    Honestly, I'm exceedingly grateful for the vote of confidence and your compliments, but let's let Nick worry about one debate, at a time. After he and Gary have had their discussion, if Nick is up for a further debate, I'd certainly be willing.
    "[Mathematics] is the revealer of every hidden truth, for it knows every hidden secret, and bears the key to every subtlety of letters; whoever, then, has the effrontery to pursue physics while neglecting mathematics should know from the start he will never make his entry through the portals of wisdom."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zymologist View Post
    What's a "winger type Christian?" Just curious--I've never heard the term before.
    I just know Winger was a hair metal band.
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    Gary is off to a bad start.

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    He has to assume the scientific method is the only possibility, and assumes that anything miraculous is impossible. Is that circular or is it circular?
    Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boxing Pythagoras View Post
    Honestly, I'm exceedingly grateful for the vote of confidence and your compliments, but let's let Nick worry about one debate, at a time. After he and Gary have had their discussion, if Nick is up for a further debate, I'd certainly be willing.
    Excellent. The debate ought to happen sooner or later - if Nick understandably doesn't wish to participate in two consecutive debates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedidiah View Post
    He has to assume the scientific method is the only possibility, and assumes that anything miraculous is impossible. Is that circular or is it circular?
    How can one prove that the scientific method is the only valid way to learn truth by using the scientific method??? That's just plain begging the question.
    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christianbookworm View Post
    How can one prove that the scientific method is the only valid way to learn truth by using the scientific method??? That's just plain begging the question.
    How does one prove anything?

    The fundamental problem is how does one identify truth? Our Christianity claims to be both historical and true. What type of evidence from history can one apply the scientific method?
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    That's philosophy! Not the scientific method. The question of how we know things are true is a philosophical question.
    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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    well. this seems like a trainwreck already. does this guy even have any credentials behind his name? i'm curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irate Canadian View Post
    well. this seems like a trainwreck already. does this guy even have any credentials behind his name? i'm curious.
    No, he's just another deconvert Bart Ehrman can add to his list. From his blog, he doesn't seem well equipped to interact with scholarly material.
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