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      The blundering filming of atheist film maker Brian Flemming

      I recently read the following which gave me a very good laugh. It was in regards to the filming of "The God Who Wasn't There" by atheist film maker Brian Flemming.

      Here is what I read:

      The filming is poor. This is most likely the result of Flemming’s working from a shoestring budget and either his inexperience or lack of gifting. The poor quality is sometimes distracting. For instance, in two interviews with Robert Price and David and Barbara Mikkelson, there is a distracting reflection of camera light and sunlight in their eyeglasses. In the interview with Price, the camera can even be seen in his eyeglasses, because it is directly in front of him. Changing the angle would have easily eliminated this. Flemming did not bother to straighten the tilted lampshade in his interview with Price. The quality of the filming reaches its low in Flemming’s interview with Scott Butcher. Because of backlighting, Butcher looks very dark. Flemming uses only one camera throughout his interviews and asks his questions from behind the camera, producing the impression that one is viewing a homemade video rather than a professional production. The graphics are very repetitive, seldom change, and are of a low quality. Yet, as we shall see, the film’s technical difficulties are the least of its problems.

      from: http://www.answeringinfidels.com/content/view/87/53/
      I wonder how big the budget was for the hiring of historians?
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      Re: The blundering filming of atheist film maker Brian Flemming

      Quote Originally posted by Federales
      I recently read the following which gave me a very good laugh. It was in regards to the filming of "The God Who Wasn't There" by atheist film maker Brian Flemming.

      Here is what I read:



      I wonder how big the budget was for the hiring of historians?
      Dear Fed,
      I bought the DVD after I read about it in Time Magazine. You're right that the quality of the camera work was poor. But I bought the DVD because I was interested in what the man had to say. I think that I got my money's worth.
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      Re: The blundering filming of atheist film maker Brian Flemming

      Quote Originally posted by Nick Hallandale
      Dear Fed,
      I bought the DVD after I read about it in Time Magazine. You're right that the quality of the camera work was poor. But I bought the DVD because I was interested in what the man had to say. I think that I got my money's worth.
      Maybe you'd care to debate me on the academic merits of the film since it seems Flemming doesn't want to.

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      Re: The blundering filming of atheist film maker Brian Flemming

      Quote Originally posted by jpholding
      Maybe you'd care to debate me on the academic merits of the film since it seems Flemming doesn't want to.
      No Thank You.
      I'm not an Atheist.
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      Re: The blundering filming of atheist film maker Brian Flemming

      Quote Originally posted by Nick Hallandale
      No Thank You.
      I'm not an Atheist.
      You don't have to be. You just have to think the film is good. It doesn't matter if you're a Hindoo Rastafarian with a sinus condition.

      Yes or no? I don't require a Statement of Belief for debate like he does.

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      Re: The blundering filming of atheist film maker Brian Flemming

      Maybe he bought it for the comic relief.
      "Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.

      The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.

      And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace

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      Re: The blundering filming of atheist film maker Brian Flemming

      Quote Originally posted by Darth Executor
      Maybe he bought it for the comic relief.
      Oh yeah. And then again the DVD case does make a darned good coaster.

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      Re: The blundering filming of atheist film maker Brian Flemming

      Quote Originally posted by jpholding
      Oh yeah. And then again the DVD case does make a darned good coaster.

      What didn't you agree with on the DVD?
      Be as Specific as possible.
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      Re: The blundering filming of atheist film maker Brian Flemming

      Quote Originally posted by Nick Hallandale
      What didn't you agree with on the DVD?
      Be as Specific as possible.
      JP has an article that contains his opinions on it that you can read here:

      http://www.tektonics.org/gk/godthere.html
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      Re: The blundering filming of atheist film maker Brian Flemming

      He's running out of delaying questions....

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      Quote Originally posted by jpholding
      He's running out of delaying questions....
      1 Corinthians 15:12-14 (New American Standard Bible)
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      12Now if Christ is preached, that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?

      13But if there is no resurrection of the dead, not even Christ has been raised;

      14and if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain.

      Do you have any information on the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus?
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      Quote Originally posted by Nick Hallandale
      Do you have any information on the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus?
      Lots.

      http://www.tektonics.org/lp/nowayjose.html
      http://www.tektonics.org/uz/vector01.html

      and look under "Jesus -- Resurrection" at http://www.tektonics.org.TK-J.html

      Now do I take that as a "NO" on debating the merits of the film, despite the fact that you essentially propped it here?

      Typing "yes" or "no" surely isn't that hard.

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      Re: The blundering filming of atheist film maker Brian Flemming

      Chill, JP.

      You've already had your "no" back in post #4. With a "thank you" tossed in besides. At this point, it's looking more like bullying than anything else. He's already told you he's not an atheist. His initial post gave you his position, but apparently that's not good enough for you either. If you're not going to bother reading his reasons for viewing the film, why should you expect him to bother writing anything else for you to ignore?

      Why can't you theists just get along?

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      Re: The blundering filming of atheist film maker Brian Flemming

      Quote Originally posted by Nick Hallandale
      1 Corinthians 15:12-14 (New American Standard Bible)
      New American Standard Bible (NASB)
      12Now if Christ is preached, that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?

      13But if there is no resurrection of the dead, not even Christ has been raised;

      14and if Christ has not been raised, then our preaching is vain, your faith also is vain.

      Do you have any information on the evidence for the resurrection of Jesus?
      uhmmm is it just me or could that go either way?
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      Quote Originally posted by XaositectCrayon
      uhmmm is it just me or could that go either way?
      It's not just you.
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