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A question for my theistic evolutionist friends
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Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostYou have failed to present a coherent argument with citations, other than 'my reading,' which gets you nowhere.βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostUntrue. The citation of the summary Catholic exegesis by Francis Schüssler Fiorenza supports my view completely. You have offered not a single reason to dismiss his opinion or excellent credentials, but merely dismiss it as 'talking heads'. If you are willing to enter into the details of my reading of Genesis, I have expressed my willingness to guide you through the details and justification, and the invitation still stands, but you prefer to denigrate that without even knowing the specifics of my reading or its justification. Then you ignorantly accuse me of of overstating conclusions of Westermann's commentary without knowing anything either of Westermann's commentary or of my reading of Genesis and, when challenged to quote me as anywhere overstating any conclusions of Westermann's commentary, you are unable to back up your accusation with a single quote. Such is the state of your ignorant polemics and yet you try to deflect attention away from your nonsense by claiming that others have failed. Pathetic. Why not just drop the pretense and enter into an educational dialogue?Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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Originally posted by shunyadragon View PostWhich post?βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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Originally posted by robrecht View PostWhat exactly are you requesting? It is I who have requested you to quote where you think I have overstated conclusions of Westermann's commentary.Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.
Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
But will they come when you do call for them? Shakespeare’s Henry IV, Part 1, Act III:
go with the flow the river knows . . .
Frank
I do not know, therefore everything is in pencil.
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See my Post #245: "... See, for example, the synopsis by Francis Schüssler Fiorenza in Systematic Theology: Roman Catholic Perspectives, 2011, p. 389:
“But the single most important conclusion of Catholic biblical studies relative to original sin consists in breaking down the misinterpretations of the story of Adam and Eve and their "fall" as a descriptive historical account, and breaking it open as an interpretation of ourselves.”
Note that Fiorenza, Professor of Roman Catholic Theological Studies at Harvard Divinity School, previously studied under Karl Rahner, Johann Baptist Metz, and Joseph Ratzinger (before he became Benedict XVI) so he is fairly well acquainted with modern Catholic theology and exegesis. ..."
To which you erroneously responded in your Post #246: "I will take note of this for future reference."
Since it was apparent that you had not understood the quote, I repeated it for you in my post #247.
I am now requesting for the fourth time that you attempt to substantiate your false claim that I have supposedly overstated any conclusions of Westermann's commentary (see already my Posts #s 255, 257, 259).βλέπομεν γὰρ ἄρτι δι᾿ ἐσόπτρου ἐν αἰνίγματι, τότε δὲ πρόσωπον πρὸς πρόσωπον·
ἄρτι γινώσκω ἐκ μέρους, τότε δὲ ἐπιγνώσομαι καθὼς καὶ ἐπεγνώσθην.אָכֵ֕ן אַתָּ֖ה אֵ֣ל מִסְתַּתֵּ֑ר אֱלֹהֵ֥י יִשְׂרָאֵ֖ל מוֹשִֽׁיעַ׃
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