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[Seeton]

All right yall. I'm coming to my brethren and sistren to find out information. I don't want to cause a stir and I don't want little kiddies reading this. However, since I'm too embarrased to ask anyone their opinion, I'm just gonna ask the whole world on the internet.

This is a question about sexuality.

Do Not crank on this thread. Please keep all snide remarks away. This is racey enough as is.

What are the moral implications of oral sex? I don't want crazy details. What I'm wondering about is whether or not a man and a woman who are in the confines of marriage could morally consider this as an acceptable and pure expression of their love for each other.

Are there aspects of devaluation involved even in the best circumstances, or are there cituations where it is a noncoercive enjoyable pastime.

Thank you brethren and sistren ahead of time for your maturity.

I pray that this will be an edifying thread as opposed to one that gets me banned.

[Xmansmommy]

[Jaltus]

I would say that it is within the confines of marriage, and thus between husband and wife.

Freedom in Christ, I'd say.

[yxboom]

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[bar Jonah]

Today @ 11:44 PM post located here
Jaltus:
I would say that it is within the confines of marriage, and thus between husband and wife.

Freedom in Christ, I'd say.

I definitely agree with Jaltus. There is absolutely no moral or legal prohibition on it. If a member of a marriage believes it's wrong, the couple should abstain. It should not be a spiritual stumbling block to someone. I believe Romans 14 covers this.

That said, freedom in Christ.

[studyhound]

:eeke:
As long as both sides are in agreement, and both are understanding in what is going to happen (no spurising the other). Talking about sex with your spouce can make the over all experince better.

[Little Cow]

Well I must say I was quite suprised to see this thread.

My opinion in the matter goes along with what I have read so far. As long as husband and wife are consenting, I see nothing wrong with it.

[Paulbarbee]

I can't see anything Biblically wrong w/ it and my interpretation sees it in Song of Solomon 2.3, possibly elsewhere.

[RevSteve45]

Seeton,

I would say that, as a general rule, consentual sexual acts between a man & wife are permitted, unless it involves sexual sin, such as bringing a third party into the couple's sex life:

1 Cor 7:3-5, The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband.
4 The wife's body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband's body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife.
5 Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. (NIV)

Heb 13:4, Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge. (KJV)

I would say that this word, "undefiled," would cover all connsentual sex between a man & wife that does not involve sin.

In His Service,
Steve

[Xmansmommy]

Great response RevSteve!

[RevSteve45]

Let me re-emphasize here that I am referring only to CONSENTUAL sexual acts between a man & wife.

I am not married, but if I was, I would never ask my wife to take part in sexual acts that she did not like, or that she found distasteful or perverted. Just because I think that I might enjoy a particular sexual act, does not mean that SHE will enjoy it, and vice-versa.

That's what I believe the verses from 1 Corinthians 7 are talking about, is a mutual respect for our spouse's sexual wants & needs. If she wants sex a certain way, or a certain number of times, I should do my best to meet her desires, and she should do the same for me. In that sense, my body "belongs" to her, and her body "belongs" to me, for we are one flesh in the sexual relationship. To withold sexual pleasure from each other would be selfish, and not loving each other as Christ loved the Church, and gave His life for it.

Eph 5:28-29, So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: (KJV)

In His Service,
Steve

[mickiel]

It is the answer i would agree with. It can also be a reverse pain. What if the wife believes it is unholy to kiss? What if the man believes it is spiritual for the wife to be covered while engageing in sex? What if the wife believes God does not want her to have sex on sunday? What if the husband believes his wife is boring, so he decides that God wants him to take another woman? Who in their right reason would consent to these?

I know a man who had his wife shave all her hair off below her head because he saw that as "manly". Spiritual teaching MUST be reasonable or people will exalt it to unreasonable heights, all still in THEIR effort to be spiritual. One minister can perminantly damage a couple trying to find reason in their spiritual lives, which is why i would STRONGLY SUGGEST to a couple to N E V E R allow anyonelse to referee your bedroom. Do not allow OTHERS OPINON to influence your relations with your wife. If you don't know how to be in relations, learn between each other or wait till you know to have relations.

[Dee Dee Warren]

I agree with everything said. Thank you for your sensitivity and tact in such a subject.

[Iceman]

I'm amazed that not a single post has supported abstinence from oral sex. Does anyone have something to offer from another viewpoint?

[RevSteve45]

I'm amazed that not a single post has supported abstinence from oral sex. Does anyone have something to offer from another viewpoint?

Iceman,

The reason why no one has supported abstinence from oral sex, is that Scripture is silent on the subject. Unlike, for instance, homosexuality, Scripture offers nothing either positive or negative to say about oral sex. Therefore, we must address it as Scripture would address all OTHER sexual activity between a man & wife.

In His Service,
Steve