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May 30th 2006, 05:11 PM #1
Allah doesn't have a son - he has daughters
We all know that the Quran over and over again asserts that Allah, the Muslim deity, has no son. And he doesn't have a son, since Allah is not the same god spoken of in the Jewish and Christian Scriptures. But, this Allah (a pre-Islamic deity) does have daughters, and Mohammed made the great mistake of mentioning them in his "nobel" Quran:
The Star Sura (53): "Have ye seen Lat, and Uzza, And another, the third (goddess) Manat?" vss. 19-20.
Allah was a prominent pre-Islamic deity, a god with three daughters called al-Lat, al-Uzza, and Manant. Mohammed's early biographers write that these vss. originally were followed by:
"These are the exalted cranes (intermediaries) whose intercession is to be hoped for."
Allah's daughters were considered heavenly intercessors, sub-deities. Numidian cranes is a metaphorical description of intercessors.
Later, the cranes vs. was replaced with "What! for you the male sex, and for him the female? Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair," vss. 53:21-22.
This states that those who believed that Allah only had three dauthers were not being fair to Allah, since everybody preferred sons, yet Allah was said to only have daugthers!
These are what have been termed "The Satanic Verses." In modern time, Rushdie was the target of a fatwah for naming a fictional novel after them.
So, Allah does not have a son - but he sure had a lot of daughters.
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May 30th 2006, 05:23 PM #2
Re: Allah doesn't have a son - he has daughters
Is there an online Qu'ran where I can look these up?
Originally posted by Crusader
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May 30th 2006, 05:34 PM #3
Re: Allah doesn't have a son - he has daughters
Yes, there are several on-line Qurans. Here's a link to one:
Originally posted by Johnny EC
http://www.reciter.org/
Other than that, just do a Google search on the Satanic Verses. Or, just read this Wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_Verses
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July 5th 2006, 02:04 PM #4
Re: Allah doesn't have a son - he has daughters
Allah, the god of Abraham, is not a 'pre-islamic deity', and existed before Abraham had a heavens and earth in which to exist.
perhaps the world "Allah" was used to refer to some other deity in Arab culture. I believe that is the case. However it is also the case with YAH and EL which are in the bible.
(So by the same logic, the bible is about pagan gods ... )
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April 29th 2007, 03:48 PM #5
Re: Allah doesn't have a son - he has daughters
Well..If you were honset you would complete the verses and not cutting them in the middle to twist the meaning. Here are the complete verses:
"Have you then considered Al-Lât, and Al-'Uzza (two idols of the pagan Arabs). And Manât (another idol of the pagan Arabs), the other third?. Is it for you the males and for Him the females?. That indeed is a division most unfair! They are but names which you have named - you and your fathers - for which Allâh has sent down no authority. They follow but a guess and that which they themselves desire, whereas there has surely come to them the Guidance from their Lord!. " (Quran 53: 19- 23).
Shame on you to LIE in public forum like that and make fun of yourself and your faith.
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April 29th 2007, 04:30 PM #6
Re: Allah doesn't have a son - he has daughters
Thanks for the clarification, Submitter, but the thread has been dead for a year
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