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Jesus rebuking Peter for slicing the man's ear off

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  • Jesus rebuking Peter for slicing the man's ear off

    Greg Boyd is on an anti-gun kick on social media right now. Just now, he posted: "If Jesus rebuked Peter for using a weapon to defend him against assailants, what would he say to followers who pack a Smith & Wesson?"

    I am not sure this is the right question. Putting aside for a moment the obvious counter-argument that Jesus also told his disciples to buy weapons in the first place... it seems to me that the rebuke may not have so much been for the violent action of Peter but for trying to interfere with the plan of what had to happen (very similar to when Jesus said "get behind me Satan"). Then again, Jesus did heal the guy's ear...
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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    He didn't want Peter to get killed for trying to stop the mob from arresting Jesus?
    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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    • #3
      How about Ehud (Judges 3:16), conceal & carry? Didn't even need a permit.
      When I Survey....

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        There's a difference between descriptive and prescriptive. And there is a time for everything.
        If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Faber View Post
          How about Ehud (Judges 3:16), conceal & carry? Didn't even need a permit.
          And, for trivia's sake - that's the answer to "who is the left-handed stabber in the Bible"
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
            Greg Boyd is on an anti-gun kick on social media right now. Just now, he posted: "If Jesus rebuked Peter for using a weapon to defend him against assailants, what would he say to followers who pack a Smith & Wesson?"

            I am not sure this is the right question. Putting aside for a moment the obvious counter-argument that Jesus also told his disciples to buy weapons in the first place... it seems to me that the rebuke may not have so much been for the violent action of Peter but for trying to interfere with the plan of what had to happen (very similar to when Jesus said "get behind me Satan"). Then again, Jesus did heal the guy's ear...
            I think it's all about timing..... Jesus was focusing on the prophecy that was being played out, and Peter was taking matters into his own hands. It's not the only time Peter acted presumptuously and had to be corrected.
            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
              And, for trivia's sake - that's the answer to "who is the left-handed stabber in the Bible"
              Speaking of trivia, where does the word "sinister" come from?
              When I Survey....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Faber View Post
                Speaking of trivia, where does the word "sinister" come from?
                If I recall, it's from Latin for left or something.
                The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                  I think it's all about timing..... Jesus was focusing on the prophecy that was being played out, and Peter was taking matters into his own hands. It's not the only time Peter acted presumptuously and had to be corrected.

                  He of the foot-shaped mouth.....


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by mossrose View Post
                    He of the foot-shaped mouth.....
                    Yup... kindred spirits and all.
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #11
                      Greg Boyd is an idiot. Jesus was 1) Trying to get himself killed, and 2) Trying to keep Peter from getting killed. If you just read what he tells Peter, he makes both those points specifically.

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                      • #12
                        whos greg boyd

                        edit: "In addition, he is a noted Christian anarchist"

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                        "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths." Isaiah 3:12

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                        • #13
                          Like others, I've never heard of him. But I'd no longer give him any credibility if he can't figure out something so obvious as Jesus' intent behind the rebuke. Either that, or he's being dishonest to his audience just to make some political point. Not sure which is worse.

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                          • #14
                            Greg Boyd is pretty influential among more liberal-minded Protestants. He has some good apologetics but I don't recommend him because of his open theism. He also has some other political views I find disagreeable, like taking the Sermon on the Mount as a command against self defense, and pushing vegetarianism from a Christian perspective. He's a smart guy though and I wouldn't just dismiss him as an "idiot".
                            "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                            • #15
                              Differences of opinions in theology doesn't bother me, especially something as trivial as open theism vs. arminianism. If he can't figure out something so obvious as stated in the OP, then he's clearly either an idiot or he's dishonest. Either one is a major red flag.

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