37818: Three persons, one God

[Marta]

Your posts seem to be doing more obfuscation than clarification as to what you believe. Can you answer the question of your belief openly and clearly?

Genesis 48:17-20, So he put Ephraim ahead of Manasseh.

Whatever does this have to do with my belief - openingly?

[Marta]

The beginning of the creation of God =/= first thing created, it means the start of creation. Jesus started creation = Jesus created; not that he was created.

See post to Jedidiah - to confirm that we share the same beliefs

[hedrick]

Are you saying that the Western approach on the theology of the Trinity entails tritheism (a belief in three gods) where as, the Eastern approach the same theology as being more unified?

Not at all. I'm saying that the idea that all three persons are unbegotten isn't necessarily tritheism. That accusation assumes that the distinction between unbegotten, begotten, and proceeding is the primary thing that characterizes the distinction among the persons, so that making the Father the source of the other two is what defines their unity. 37818 may well characterize the distinction and unity differently. You'd need to look at his theology more broadly before judging it. He might even be wrong without necessarily being tritheist.

[Marta]

Not at all. I'm saying that the idea that all three persons are unbegotten isn't necessarily tritheism. That accusation assumes that the distinction between unbegotten, begotten, and proceeding is the primary thing that characterizes the distinction among the persons, so that making the Father the source of the other two is what defines their unity. 37818 may well characterize the distinction and unity differently. You'd need to look at his theology more broadly before judging it. He might even be wrong without necessarily being tritheist.

II. THE REVELATION OF GOD AS TRINITY

The Father revealed by the SonWe have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth"

John concluded it - bringing that understanding of what God's glory is! Just as the people "asked" Jesus, "What is the work of God?" What does God require of us? (basically - in the same breath as Micah's passage) The whole sum of this is that! What is God requiring out of us - what is the work of God! To believe! And - as Micah's passage tell us, "He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God."

[37818]

II. THE REVELATION OF GOD AS TRINITY

The Father revealed by the SonWe have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth"

John concluded it - bringing that understanding of what God's glory is! Just as the people "asked" Jesus, "What is the work of God?" What does God require of us? (basically - in the same breath as Micah's passage) The whole sum of this is that! What is God requiring out of us - what is the work of God! To believe! And - as Micah's passage tell us, "He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God."

Also:

John 1:9-10,
. . . [That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. . . .

Hebrews 1:3,
. . . Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; . . .

Colossians 1:15,
. . . Who is the image of the invisible . . .

[Marta]

Also:

John 1:9-10,
. . . [That] was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. . . .

Hebrews 1:3,
. . . Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; . . .

Colossians 1:15,
. . . Who is the image of the invisible . . .

He (God) has shown you, O mortal, what is good!

Romans 5:8

But God demonstrates (shown) his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.