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  • #46
    Originally posted by Teallaura View Post
    Sure, like most human things it is what we make of it. We tend to only think of governmental affairs as politics but it really is in every group, especially evident when the group is organized or organizing.

    I argued in a blog post once that abdicating the political field is a bad thing. Government has a huge impact on people's lives, the same people we as Christians are supposed to love. In a democratic republic especially when we sit down and shut up someone else will fill the void but not in a good way.
    Okay, it's just that I think I have the same apathy about politics as most young adults. Except abortion. Murdering babies is wrong!
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Irate Canadian View Post
      WOW..... just wow.

      Go take your sexism somewhere else.
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      • #48
        Why does it seem like all the futurists are sexist? I mean, come on guys, you aren't doing any favours to your cause then.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Irate Canadian View Post
          Why does it seem like all the futurists are sexist? I mean, come on guys, you aren't doing any favours to your cause then.
          To be fair, men and women do have physical differences. I myself am about three times as emotional, partially because I have a mood disorder. On the other hand, I have never seen CBW be emotional.

          I thought it was just a doofy thing to add to his post.

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          • #50
            While I do recognize the fact that women are scientifically more emotional, it is not a valid usage to make that into a sterotype about all women.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Irate Canadian View Post
              Why does it seem like all the futurists are sexist? I mean, come on guys, you aren't doing any favours to your cause then.
              Please don't confuse Darfius with all futurists.
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              • #52
                Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
                Please don't confuse Darfius with all futurists.
                True.. most futurists are pretty cool people... problem is I think with the TWebbers with more of a fundie bent
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by eschaton View Post
                  All I know is that everything I see about libertarian seems to be against Christian values. Check some of Penn Gillettte's videos on Libertarianism. People need to know the truth. As far as dizzle is concerned, people can check her Youtube channel.


                  Liberty is against Christian values? Try again, this time making a more rational statement.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Irate Canadian View Post


                    Liberty is against Christian values? Try again, this time making a more rational statement.
                    Don't you understand??? Non-aggression is clearly anti-Christian. I mean, it's so obvious.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by thewriteranon View Post
                      Don't you understand??? Non-aggression is clearly anti-Christian. I mean, it's so obvious.
                      Obviously Christ meant for us to fight others when he said, "Do onto others as you would have them do to you."
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Irate Canadian View Post
                        Obviously Christ meant for us to fight others when he said, "Do onto others as you would have them do to you."
                        Didn't the text originally say: Do unto others what they would have done to you if they had the chance?


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                        • #57
                          Futurism is the washed up rapper of eschatology.
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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
                            Okay, it's just that I think I have the same apathy about politics as most young adults. Except abortion. Murdering babies is wrong!
                            I understand. Just so you know, abortion is an issue not politics per se
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by fm93 View Post
                              Futurism is the washed up rapper of eschatology.
                              On Tweb, definitely. But I haven't meant one preterist outside of Tweb, neither online or in real life, which is odd to me. I take it Tweb was originally started with like-minded preterists or something?

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by seanD View Post
                                On Tweb, definitely. But I haven't meant one preterist outside of Tweb, neither online or in real life, which is odd to me. I take it Tweb was originally started with like-minded preterists or something?
                                the original owner was a preterist.
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