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    Quote Originally Posted by princesa View Post
    is the body in bodily resurrection a physical or spiritual body?
    Both. This is a false dichotomy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Christianbookworm View Post
    Invulnerable?
    I think it will be less a matter of invulnerability (notice "I think") as a matter of the elimination of all dangers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    The reason I bring up the thing about disabilities is because I've been reading a book about Christianity and disabilities by Amos Yong. He says he has a problem with the idea that we say that all disabilities go away in heaven because it seems offensive to people with disabilities and because some people's identities are wrapped up with them (especially autism spectrum type disabilities). I'm not done with the book but I'm not at all convinced by his arguments (and of course they're more complicated than the quick summary I provided here).
    Honestly, who cares? We shall know as we are known.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    I also wonder if people with disabilities will have them cured in heaven or not. One could argue that Jesus says it is possible to enter with only one eye, but who knows?
    Why then do the immortal need medicine? Remember Jesus in His resurrected body still had the wound in His side and the holes of the nails. Then Jesus' words, ". . . it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire." -- Matthew 18:8.

    ". . . the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations." -- Revelation 22:2.
    . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentecost View Post
    . . . that for example 37818 posted (except for Acts 1? I don't see you meaning).
    Acts 1:11 refers to Christ's bodily return. The same way He left, is how He will return. And when He returns, the He will bring those to be resurrected with Him. (1 Thessalonians 4:14.)
    . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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    Yes 37818, I know and I agree with you. I just don't see as strong a connection between it and the others for use as a proof text.

    But this is not an appropriate thread to have an eschalogical conversation. This thread is for discussion on how it relates to the laity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pentecost View Post
    Now, I think we all know that a physical resurrection of the dead has been promised to us. Do you think most Christians even realize that it will happen? How big of an issue is it do you think for those who incorrectly plan on ditching their bodies for Heaven, rather than wearing a new body into Heaven?
    I think that for many the concept is unclear. One key question is how Christians conceive heaven. Do they think of it a place far removed and completely other than the earth? Or do they see the vision of the New Jerusalem coming down out of the new heaven to the new earth?

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    There is absolutely no need for resurrection. All this talk about human embodiment is ridiculous. Glorification consists of immortal, immaterial "souls"/spirits floating about in "heaven" throughout the ceaseless ages with intangible harps. No bodies are required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Remonstrant View Post
    There is absolutely no need for resurrection. All this talk about human embodiment is ridiculous. Glorification consists of immortal, immaterial "souls"/spirits floating about in "heaven" throughout the ceaseless ages with intangible harps. No bodies are required.
    Did you forget the sarcasm tags, or are you serious?
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    I would think the part about "intangible harps" indicates sarcasm.

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