Noah's Ark Found in Iran?!

[rizdek]

papas,

I'm curious what exactly you mean by "whether Josephus is telling the truth", and what reasons and evidence you have for doubting Jospehus's truthfulness in this matter?

Josephus actually says "locals" essentially raided the ark and took parts home? Who were the locals? Was it Noah and his family? And I note you added the (and tourists). Now as I understand it, everyone else drowned. So who was left to raid the ark? I think that is why we might doubt Josephus is telling the truth. If the bible story is true there isn't anyone left to steal the nails and tar. Or did some tourists manage to tread water for a year? It is interesting to me that the same person used as corroboration for Jesus also happens to have first hand knowledge of what happened to the ark.

Of course, maybe the description of the "flood" was an exaggeration (myth) of the kinds apparently people wrote about in those days. Maybe instead of a huge boat full of animals and Noah's family floating on a worldwide flood, it was really just an oral legend passed down from generation to generation and the original event was that someone's family and their dogs got caught in some high water and had to catch a passing log to get them to safety.

[M.Talkingsworth]

... it was really just an oral legend passed down from generation to generation and the original event was that someone's family and their dogs got caught in some high water and had to catch a passing log to get them to safety.

You know that wouldn't work! The dogs would make the log tip over!

[rogue06]

Josephus actually says "locals" essentially raided the ark and took parts home? Who were the locals? Was it Noah and his family? And I note you added the (and tourists). Now as I understand it, everyone else drowned. So who was left to raid the ark? I think that is why we might doubt Josephus is telling the truth. If the bible story is true there isn't anyone left to steal the nails and tar. Or did some tourists manage to tread water for a year? It is interesting to me that the same person used as corroboration for Jesus also happens to have first hand knowledge of what happened to the ark.

Of course, maybe the description of the "flood" was an exaggeration (myth) of the kinds apparently people wrote about in those days. Maybe instead of a huge boat full of animals and Noah's family floating on a worldwide flood, it was really just an oral legend passed down from generation to generation and the original event was that someone's family and their dogs got caught in some high water and had to catch a passing log to get them to safety.

While I seriously doubt the accuracy of Josephus' account, I think he was alluding to the people living in the region either during his time or not long before. Others have speculated that Noah and his family may have disaassembled the Ark to use for building materials.

[rHarryr]

decoski;

I have a few thoughts on this subject, but they are in a post on my blog. I don't know if anyone else has brought these points up or not, so I would appreciate it if you would take a look. It's "Noah's Ark and Flood". You can access it through the link in my signature. It would save me having to copy and paste it here.


P. S. : For those who have already seen the post, I've added a few lines to it.

[#RSM#]

Earlier in the thread Ron Wyatt was mentioned. I watched a video on how he found Noah's Ark, and how he concluded that it really was Noah's Ark. I was impressed by several factors:

1. the make-up of the team: it was Ron, his wife, and their best friends who were another married couple.

2. This team managed to do in a few months or years what normally takes professional scientists an entire lifetime to accomplish.

The problem with the first point is that specialists tend not to marry specialists in the same field. Once in a while they do but when you get a team of four "specialists" who are all married and best friends, you begin to question whether they are true specialists. Further, when you see these "specialists" accomplishing in a matter of months of years what normally takes lifetimes you think, Aha! spoofs.

Somebody had a pocketbook to line or an ego to boost--possibly both.

[runtmc2jc]

[QUOTE=The Curtmudgeon;1551149]Bob Cornuke, the leader of that expedition, was one of the two men (the other was Larry Williams) that "discovered" that Mt. Sinai was really Jebel al-Lawz in Saudi Arabia (i.e., outside the Sinai Peninsula, where it has generally been understood to be located), following leads originally "discovered" (or perhaps "invented" would be a better term) by Ron Wyatt, another leader of expeditions who claimed that he had found Noah's Ark, the other Ark, and numerous other Biblical artefacts. Point being, that Cornuke and Williams were very careful to claim full credit for the Jebel al-Lawz discovery while completely covering over that they stole the idea from Wyatt, with whom Williams had been earlier connected.

While not wanting to get into the Wyatt Foundation v. Cornuke et al. hassle in general, my own take is that neither side has enough true archaeological credentials to be taken seriously. Nothing I've seen on Cornuke's work has seemed at all credible. I'd put this story in the same pile.

Good points.......the video currently showing on myspace with Cornuke & Williams is amazing. Much of that footage actually comes from Jim and Penny Caldwell (Split Rock Foundation) who lived in Saudi Arabia for years and did much on-site investigation. They were able to sucessfully provide media for Wyatt as well as Cornuke & Williams....I was somewhat disturbed that there was no mention of Wyatt - and I also disagree with Cornuke/Williams' proposed crossing point of the "Red Sea".

[runtmc2jc]

Considering that every shred of science we have pretty much says that a global flood is completely impossible and ludicrous-- are you suggesting that all of known science should be revised if there happens to be a boat on top of that mountain?

It is much easier to explain how a boat might have ended up on top of a mountain than to explain why almost all of our known fields of science are wrong.....

Actually there is much evidence for a flood of global proportions....perhaps you aren't looking for them

[rogue06]

Actually there is much evidence for a flood of global proportions....perhaps you aren't looking for them

Perhaps you would like to provide some