On The Duggars

[Jedidiah]

It's a national level news story with dozens of moving pieces cross country. Why would any random internet person on TWeb need to do something for this to be hilarious to me?

Pretty sad to me.

[lilpixieofterror]

OH!

Also, as it turns out, http://gizmodo.com/the-fembots-of-as...son-1726670394

There were only about 12,000 real women using the site, worldwide. And some article I saw floating around patheos is about the hundreds, possibly in the low thousands by the time everything shakes out, of US clergy types who have already announced they're retiring.

Ahh schadenfreude, what would I do without you?

edit: I DONT HAVE TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.2337691

haaaaaaa

I'm just going to quote the site I got that from because I can't write it better and I'm giggling too hard to think of something funny on my own

Source: youaredumb.net

But for me, it's much funnier to hear that he's entered essentially rehab for his porn addiction. So what you're telling me is, an entire lifetime of being taught a super-devout, super-creepy Christian anti-sex abstinence worldview wasn't enough to keep him away from the demon porn, but a few months in a "treatment program" ought to do the trick? Especially the same kind of "treatment program" he went through for • Edited by a Moderator • when he was a teen? I'm pretty sure we need to point this out every single time someone says sex-ed should be based on Biblical principles.

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You can tell how sad and pathetic Brave Sir Jacep's life must be because he seems to have to laugh at the misfortunes of others to make himself feel better. What a sad little life you must live and I feel very sorry for you.

[lilpixieofterror]

Pretty sad to me.

He just wants to show everybody here how sad and pathetic he is by laughing at the misfortunes of others.

[Jesse]

Darth pretty much shares the same thoughts I have on the issue. He didn't transgress against us so there is no need for us to forgive him for anything. That is up to him and his family. To me, he's a perv and whatever legal/personal punishments come his way, he deserves.

I don't understand the gloating of Jaecp. You have to be pretty low on the compassion bar to find any glee out of others misfortunes just because they do not have your political/religious beliefs. We have all done things we wish we didn't. We are all human. You might want to remember that when misfortune comes knocking on your door. Hopefully for you, there won't be someone there to laugh at it.

[Jaecp]

I'll make sure to give you the opportunity for schadenfraude when I rape, molest, or otherwise embarrass myself publicly or otherwise contravene my personal ethic. Low odds, but who knows?

As for compassion? Why does Josh Duggar get my compassionate side? Any particular reason?

And it's not just because. It's because of the irony, that's why this is so funny

[tabibito]

I'll make sure to give you the opportunity for schadenfraude when I rape, molest, or otherwise embarrass myself publicly or otherwise contravene my personal ethic. Low odds, but who knows?

As for compassion? Why does Josh Duggar get my compassionate side? Any particular reason?

And it's not just because. It's because of the irony, that's why this is so funny

Irony on two counts, perhaps? The national obsession with his turpitude + the hypocrisy of his position.

And yes, for the man - there is the matter of being repentant (seemingly) of being caught.

But for the victims of his action - surely some compassion could be extended.

[Jesse]

I'll make sure to give you the opportunity for schadenfraude when I rape, molest, or otherwise embarrass myself publicly or otherwise contravene my personal ethic. Low odds, but who knows?

It's an opportunity I would never take. I don't find enjoyment out of someone else's suffering. I'm not a • Edited by a Moderator •

As for compassion? Why does Josh Duggar get my compassionate side? Any particular reason?

I didn't say you have to give compassion. But most humans tend to show compassion by at the very least not taking enjoyment out of a bad situation.

And it's not just because. It's because of the irony, that's why this is so funny

No, you take enjoyment out of it because it's happening to one of those "others". He's not part of your tribe, so it gives you an excuse to not give his family the same compassion you would give someone you agree with by not laughing at it.

[Jedidiah]

No, you take enjoyment out of it because it's happening to one of those "others". He's not part of your tribe, so it gives you an excuse to not give his family the same compassion you would give someone you agree with by not laughing at it.

This is the bottom line for Jaecp and his ilk.

[tabibito]

And what would the response be by a different other group if

a "notable vocable" among the pro-choice brigade happened to beat to a pulp, someone who

talked her daughter into getting an abortion?

[Jaecp]

Irony on two counts, perhaps? The national obsession with his turpitude + the hypocrisy of his position.

And yes, for the man - there is the matter of being repentant (seemingly) of being caught.

But for the victims of his action - surely some compassion could be extended.

I've made no jokes at the expense of the victims. I've been quite focused.

As for his seemingly being repentant? What do you expect the head of a lobbying group to do when a scandal happens? His reactions have been media response 101. Same stuff I've enumerated in the PP thread over in Civics.

It's an opportunity I would never take. I don't find enjoyment out of someone else's suffering. I'm not a • Edited by a Moderator •.

Schadenfreude is simply schadenfreude. Nothing more. Nothing less.

I didn't say you have to give compassion. But most humans tend to show compassion by at the very least not taking enjoyment out of a bad situation.

I didn't say you said that I had to give compassion.

As for most humans, I give most humans compassion and I take a certain level of offense at your characterization here as me "taking enjoyment out of a bad situation" as, principally, it's something Dugger did to himself by having something of a consistent pattern of morally reprehensible, even disgusting, acts of selfishness that hurt other people while he moralized at society.

No, you take enjoyment out of it because it's happening to one of those "others". He's not part of your tribe, so it gives you an excuse to not give his family the same compassion you would give someone you agree with by not laughing at it.

No, it's mostly the irony. Really. Also, his family members have little to nothing to do with this. These are his actions that brought him here. His deliciously ironic actions.

[tabibito]

I've made no jokes at the expense of the victims. I've been quite focused.

That seemed obvious from the first.

As for his seemingly being repentant? What do you expect the head of a lobbying group to do when a scandal happens? His reactions have been media response 101. Same stuff I've enumerated in the PP thread over in Civics.

I did say repentant for being caught, not of his actions.

Schadenfreude is simply schadenfreude. Nothing more. Nothing less.

yup.


My pro-choicer comment was directed at those who were criticising you, by the way. Plenty of examples on TWeb of Christians indulging in Schadenfreude.

[Jaecp]

That seemed obvious from the first.

Why bring it up the victims then?

I did say repentant for being caught, not of his actions.

Everyone says they're sorry once they're caught red handed

yup.


My pro-choicer comment was directed at those who were criticising you, by the way. Plenty of examples on TWeb of Christians indulging in Schadenfreude

Oh, absolutely. That comment was a direct reply to someone other than yourself, though

[lilpixieofterror]

I'll make sure to give you the opportunity for schadenfraude when I rape, molest, or otherwise embarrass myself publicly or otherwise contravene my personal ethic. Low odds, but who knows?

As for compassion? Why does Josh Duggar get my compassionate side? Any particular reason?

And it's not just because. It's because of the irony, that's why this is so funny

I had no clue who Josh Duggar was before his name came up in some news articles because I got a life beyond watching reality TV shows nor do I care much about laughing at the misfortunes of others. This has nothing to do with compassion and everything to do with you spending time pointing and laughing at people to make yourself feel better about your own failings. Jesus told us a parable about your kind:

To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’

“But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’

“I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”
Luke 18:9-14, NIV

This is what you're doing right now. Gloating and pretending as though you and your kind is above all moral failings. Anybody can gloat at point fingers and if you think many of us are impressed by your ability to gloat and point fingers; you'll be very disappointed soon enough...

[KingsGambit]

I had no clue who Josh Duggar was before his name came up in some news articles because I got a life beyond watching reality TV shows nor do I care much about laughing at the misfortunes of others.

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[Jaecp]

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Shouldn't that be "citation needed", though?

edit: And in what world am I the target audience for 19 kids and counting? I was vaguely aware of the guy because he had a full time job bashing gay people for the FRC. Although even if I had no idea who he was it's not like that stops the schadenfreude, as is the case whenever (yet another) hardcore, anti-gay member of the clergy here in the US gets caught with a male prostitute or otherwise contravening not only their personal ethical guidelines, but the ones they try to get other people to follow.