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August 9th 2006, 04:02 PM #16
Re: What's your view of Baptism
I feel sooo lonely
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August 9th 2006, 04:03 PM #17
Re: What's your view of Baptism
Then get with the program and quit whinin'.
Originally posted by Mark_S
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August 9th 2006, 04:41 PM #18
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It's odd. It seems like we should have more "reformed" voters here.
Originally posted by Mark_S
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August 9th 2006, 04:50 PM #19
Re: What's your view of Baptism
They all tend to hang out in Theo 201.
Originally posted by Kay
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August 9th 2006, 04:56 PM #20
Re: What's your view of Baptism
Originally posted by furay
True.
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August 9th 2006, 05:17 PM #21
Re: What's your view of Baptism
I agree. I do prefer immersion. I was immersed, but I really thought immersion was something Baptists were almost always big on. At least the ones that I have known were. Maybe not so much as I thought.
Originally posted by Berean Todd
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August 9th 2006, 05:25 PM #22
Re: What's your view of Baptism
My view? Well, since I am the pastor, generally it's from behind the font.
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August 10th 2006, 01:52 AM #23
Re: What's your view of Baptism
What? No Orthodox view?
Ah well, Catholic was close enough, though I would amend a few things on it (specifically relating it to entrance into the death and resurrection of Christ since Romans goes on and on about that).
For those who do not believe in infant baptism - what do you say with regards to the mentally retarded? Can they be baptized?Judge not, that ye be not judged.
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August 10th 2006, 07:53 AM #24
Re: What's your view of Baptism
Originally posted by Pilgrim
* I apologize for any scandal I cause to those who doing a forum search read my old posts written before and during my journey to the Catholic Faith. If you read anything heretical, impious, or just plain wrong, please forgive my ignorance. I submit everything to the Magisterium of the Holy Catholic Church. Praised be Jesus Christ forever and ever! Amen. Also, sorry for the times I was a jerk. Lot's of those!
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August 10th 2006, 09:07 AM #25
Re: What's your view of Baptism
Originally posted by Pilgrim
We are facing an enormous and dramatic clash between good and evil, death and life, the 'culture of death' and the 'culture of life'. We find ourselves not only 'faced with' but necessarily 'in the midst of' this conflict: we are all involved and we all share in it, with the inescapable responsibility of choosing to be unconditionally pro-life. --John Paul II
This day I call heaven and earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live --Deuteronomy 30:19
Go on... I dare ya. -- Xavier
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August 10th 2006, 12:14 PM #26
Re: What's your view of Baptism
Originally posted by Berean Todd
I would disagree to some extent with Todd's statement. Baptists do care about the form of baptism -- it should be immersion, it's not something you get to choose -- but most are realistic enough to allow exceptions in exceptional circumstances, such as Todd's example of desert areas. Also, bed-ridden believers who simply cannot be immersed in water would be another possible exception. But the form is to be immersion unless there is some overriding circumstance that makes immersion impractical.
Originally posted by kaine diatheke
The form is important because of what baptism means: it is primarily a visual depiction of the believer's identifying himself with Christ's death, burial and resurrection. If you sprinkle or use some other form (is there another form besides sprinkling and immersion?), then you lose the picture that baptism is meant to convey. So immersion is not just preferred, it is dictated by the meaning of the act.
But more important than the form, for Baptists baptism always follows an intentional and deliberate act of receiving salvation. You accept salvation, then you are baptised as a visual witness to the fact that you have accepted Christ's death as your substitutionary atonement. [This is also why it makes no sense for a person to be baptised with only the pastor, or other person performing the baptism, present. How can baptism be a public testimony without witnesses?] Pedobaptism is strictly not allowed.
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August 10th 2006, 12:36 PM #27
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If they profess faith, sure. We baptize children all the time - some barely tall enough to stand in the baptismal - after they've professed faith and gone through an informal catechism.
Originally posted by Macarius
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August 10th 2006, 12:53 PM #28
Re: What's your view of Baptism
Never had the experience of that. But how does civil/criminal law deal with mentally retarded folks who commit crimes?
Originally posted by Macarius
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August 10th 2006, 04:51 PM #29
Re: What's your view of Baptism
From ones you provided then Chatolic is more close to Lutheran view!
Originally posted by furay
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