Mt Mckinnali

[Teallaura]

Teallaura, do you agree that all of these executive actions is a worrisome precedent? I don't like the idea of so much of this stuff going past Congress.

Yes.

[Sam]

Then 41shouldn't Matter. The purpose wasn't to correct inaction but to h,ghlight a political proint which is not the statute's purpose.

tYpin 0n hat fon3 aGain, hehy? :)

I think this is making the same assumption that Cath was making, where Obama's motives are seen as zero-sum and exclusively one thing. I see no reason that the intention "to correct inaction" couldn't or wasn't decided on a while ago and simply implemented to coincide with Obama's trip. Even if not, there's absolutely no rule against doing things for a dual purpose. There's no Congressional jurisdiction and so no misuse of a statute.

[37818]

Hmm... It seems that mountain got the name McKinley in opposition to William Jennings Bryan and his free-silver movement in favor of the then Presidential Candidate William McKinley's defending the gold standard, http://time.com/4016954/mount-mckinley-denali-obama/

[robrecht]

You say 'tomato', I say 'tomahto', let's call the whole thing off. Ketchup still isn't a vegetable; it's a fruit juice.

[Pinoy]

Alaskans, and millions who love Alaska, support changing the name of Mt. McKinley to Denali. And that is exactly why President Barack Obama’s unilateral decision to change the name is so wrong.

When we allow leaders to bend the rules for popular policies, we create bad precedents for them to bend the rules for unpopular ones. The name ought to have been changed through a legislative compromise, or a consultative administrative process–not by fiat.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...nt-on-tyranny/

A good opinion about changing the name.

[Sparko]

Can we just blow up the mountain and put in an Interstate highway? That would solve all the problems.

[Starlight]

Alaskans, and millions who love Alaska, support changing the name of Mt. McKinley to Denali. And that is exactly why President Barack Obama’s unilateral decision to change the name is so wrong.

So Obama ought to only use his Presidential powers to do unpopular things?

Can we just blow up the mountain and put in an Interstate highway? That would solve all the problems.

Level the highest mountain in North America, then build a highway between Canada and Russia? That sounds about 50% more plausible than most of your proposals.

[Sparko]

So Obama ought to only use his Presidential powers to do unpopular things?

Level the highest mountain in North America, then build a highway between Canada and Russia? That sounds about 50% more plausible than most of your proposals.

I got the idea from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Bring your towel.

[Cerebrum123]

So Obama ought to only use his Presidential powers to do unpopular things?

Level the highest mountain in North America, then build a highway between Canada and Russia? That sounds about 50% more plausible than most of your proposals.

Alaskans, and millions who love Alaska, support changing the name of Mt. McKinley to Denali. And that is exactly why President Barack Obama’s unilateral decision to change the name is so wrong.

When we allow leaders to bend the rules for popular policies, we create bad precedents for them to bend the rules for unpopular ones. The name ought to have been changed through a legislative compromise, or a consultative administrative process–not by fiat.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...nt-on-tyranny/

A good opinion about changing the name.

Read more thoroughly, you will end up with less egg on your face.

[Starlight]

I am the first to get upset at the ever-increasing scope of presidential power-creep. However, changing the official name of a mountain that has been on the to-do list for about 40 years, isn't a sweeping increase in presidential power that is in any way scary.

A little more outrage at some of the actually serious things that Presidents of the present and recent past have been ordering... like drone strikes on American citizens, and torturing innocent prisoners to death... would be much more relevant. But the Republicans don't like to talk about those sorts of actually-serious things, because the greatest offender in recent history at increasing presidential power in serious ways that mattered was Bush W...

[Cow Poke]

I am the first to get upset at the ever-increasing scope of presidential power-creep. However, changing the official name of a mountain that has been on the to-do list for about 40 years, isn't a sweeping increase in presidential power that is in any way scary.

Meh, it's just that he's only doing it to advance his global warming climate change agenda. There are other pressing issues in the States, but he is an ideologue to the extreme.

[Cow Poke]

I got the idea from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Bring your towel.

And bring no tea.

[Cow Poke]

You say 'tomato', I say 'tomahto', let's call the whole thing off. Ketchup still isn't a vegetable; it's a fruit juice.

I couldahadda V8!

[Cow Poke]

This thread is the greatest.

The conservatives' irrational hatred of Obama is hilarious.

Ummmm... I don't hate him. I simply don't trust him, and think he's bad for the country. I hardly think that's irrational.

[One Bad Pig]

I am the first to get upset at the ever-increasing scope of presidential power-creep. However, changing the official name of a mountain that has been on the to-do list for about 40 years, isn't a sweeping increase in presidential power that is in any way scary.

A little more outrage at some of the actually serious things that Presidents of the present and recent past have been ordering... like drone strikes on American citizens, and torturing innocent prisoners to death... would be much more relevant. But the Republicans don't like to talk about those sorts of actually-serious things, because the greatest offender in recent history at increasing presidential power in serious ways that mattered was Bush W...

Your last sentence puts the lie to your first. You don't care about power creep; you only disagree when you don't like the way it's used.