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    Quote Originally Posted by Bibleuser View Post
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    That the resurrected Jesus is now an immortal man (see 1 Timothy 2:5).
    That is so not true!!!
    BU
    What is not true? That Jesus is now a man (1 Timothy 2:5, ". . . the man Jesus Christ; . . ."). Or that He was raised immortal (1 Corinthians 15:53, ". . . this mortal must put on immortality. . . ." Luke 24:39, ". . . Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself: handle Me, . . .").
    . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 37818 View Post
    What is not true? That Jesus is now a man (1 Timothy 2:5, ". . . the man Jesus Christ; . . ."). Or that He was raised immortal (1 Corinthians 15:53, ". . . this mortal must put on immortality. . . ." Luke 24:39, ". . . Behold My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself: handle Me, . . .").
    JWs believe that Jesus was resurrected spiritually, and his body preserved mystically somewhere/somehow.
    Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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    Isn't a spiritual resurrection a contradiction? Like having a square circle.
    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christianbookworm View Post
    Isn't a spiritual resurrection a contradiction? Like having a square circle.
    Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedidiah View Post
    JWs believe that Jesus was resurrected spiritually, and his body preserved mystically somewhere/somehow.
    A man is flesh and bone. In which is how Jesus did appear (Luke 24:39). BU said what I has wrote in post #4 is not true. I wanted him to clarify. Jesus being now a man (1 Timothy 2:5) or my statment that He is now immortal being a man (Hebrews 13:8).. Or both things.

    BU cited,
    Quote Originally Posted by 37818 View Post
    That the resurrected Jesus is now an immortal man (see 1 Timothy 2:5).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bibleuser View Post
    That is so not true!!!
    BU
    Last edited by 37818; 12-21-2017 at 10:51 PM.
    . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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    The JWs think that Jesus is the Arch-Angel Michael who came down and became a man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparko View Post
    The JWs think that Jesus is the Arch-Angel Michael who came down and became a man.
    In the 1800's there were Trinitarian Christians who actually thought the Arc-Angel Michael {Michael meaning "Who is like God"} was an identity of the Son of God.

    ". . . But Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing judgment, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. . . ." -- Jude 9.

    ". . . And he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of Jehovah, and Satan standing at his right hand to be his adversary. And Jehovah said unto Satan, Jehovah rebuke thee, . . ." -- Zachariah 3:1-2.

    ". . . For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel . . ." -- 1 Thessalonians 4:16.
    . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

    Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: . . . -- 1 John 5:1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 37818 View Post

    ". . . For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel . . ." -- 1 Thessalonians 4:16.

    Which "Lord" as there are many?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jedidiah View Post
    No as God's Kingdom is in heaven, read Matthew:-
    1 Corinthians 15:50
    But I tell you this, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit Godís Kingdom. . .

    So to go into "God's Kingdom" one has to be in spirit form!
    BU

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bibleuser View Post
    No as God's Kingdom is in heaven, read Matthew:-
    1 Corinthians 15:50
    But I tell you this, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit Godís Kingdom. . .

    So to go into "God's Kingdom" one has to be in spirit form!
    BU


    Luk 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.


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