14-year-old Texas boy arrested for bringing homemade clock

[Mountain Man]

You guys should really consider reading/watching the actual KATU news report instead of Breitbart's ridiculous interpretation of the events

And how does any of that refute the observations made by Pamela Geller in her Breitbart editorial?

[Mountain Man]

Will Obama be inviting him to the White House any time soon?

Of course not. Levi isn't a privileged Muslim.

[Jaecp]

And how does any of that refute the observations made by Pamela Geller in her Breitbart editorial?

By being factual as opposed to hyperbolic, obviously.

This, unlike the arrest of teenager followed by police questioning without his parents, is not national news level. Particularly because this kid left the thing in plain view and completely unattended. Ahmed was suspended over allegedly building a fake bomb. This kid, upon seeing that the device he left unattended was causing a bomb scare, reassured people, not unlike 14 year old Ahmed insisting his clock was a clock was trying to tell people it wasn't a bomb. Finally, unlike the arrest and questioning of a 14 year old boy, the school suspended this student for all of 36 hours because of a student handbook violation because he caused a large scale disruption, admittedly by accident. He was not punished for allegedly bringing a fake bomb to school on purpose as Ahmed was.

Oh, and this Kid is POST AHMED so.... yeah

MM, the more I look at this the more I see numerous key differences between this story and the one from last year. This is nowhere near as bad as that was on numerous levels and near as I can tell the school handled this perfectly unlike the case in Texas.

tl;dr -- You're editorial is nonsense and conflating radically different situations to get people like you and rogue super miffed

[Mountain Man]

By being factual as opposed to hyperbolic, obviously.

This, unlike the arrest of teenager followed by police questioning without his parents, is not national news level. Particularly because this kid left the thing in plain view and completely unattended. Ahmed was suspended over allegedly building a fake bomb. This kid, upon seeing that the device he left unattended was causing a bomb scare, reassured people, not unlike 14 year old Ahmed insisting his clock was a clock was trying to tell people it wasn't a bomb. Finally, unlike the arrest and questioning of a 14 year old boy, the school suspended this student for all of 36 hours because of a student handbook violation because he caused a large scale disruption, admittedly by accident. He was not punished for allegedly bringing a fake bomb to school on purpose as Ahmed was.

Oh, and this Kid is POST AHMED so.... yeah

MM, the more I look at this the more I see numerous key differences between this story and the one from last year. This is nowhere near as bad as that was on numerous levels and near as I can tell the school handled this perfectly unlike the case in Texas.

tl;dr -- You're editorial is nonsense and conflating radically different situations to get people like you and rogue super miffed

Sure, let's look at the differences:

* Levi is a model student.
* Ahmed has a history of being a trouble maker.

* Levi actually showed ingenuity by creating something useful from scratch.
* Ahmed simply transferred a pre-made clock into a different housing, and even then did a rather poor job.

* Levi had no intention of causing a scene.
* Ahmed admitted his "homemade" clock looked suspicious but brought it to school anyway.

* Levi inadvertently caused a panic, not realizing that his homemade charger might cause alarm.
* Ahmed showed his "homemade" clock to several teachers even after being told to keep it hidden.

* Levi openly cooperated with school officials and the police.
* Ahmed adopted a passive aggressive attitude and would only say, "It's a clock," no matter what he was asked.

* Levi and his family accepted his (unfair) punishment with good grace.
* Ahmed's family is currently suing a number of organizations and individuals, demanding repartitions for Ahmed's little stunt.

All things considered, it certainly seems that Levi is more deserving of praise than Clock Boy, don't you think. So where is Levi's White House invite? When will the left celebrate Levi as a teenage genius who was treated unfairly because of a simple misunderstanding? Do you think Google, Mark Zuckerberg, MIT, NASA, etc. are currently drafting congratulatory notices to Levi with promises of scholarships and internships? Is Microsoft going to ship thousands of dollars worth of merchandise to reward Levi for his ingenuity?

What's that? Ahmed is Muslim, and Levi is Jewish?

Ooooooh...

[Jaecp]

Sure, let's look at the differences:

* Levi is a model student.
* Ahmed has a history of being a trouble maker.

Oh, yeah, you mean from his 7th grade teacher Mr. Kubiak, who since Ahmed was 14 in 9th grade would have made him... 12?

* Levi actually showed ingenuity by creating something useful from scratch.
* Ahmed simply transferred a pre-made clock into a different housing, and even then did a rather poor job.

Not relevant to the schools response

* Levi had no intention of causing a scene.
* Ahmed admitted his "homemade" clock looked suspicious but brought it to school anyway.

Ahmed, likewise, had no intention of causing a scene. He's a young nerd looking for adulation from his engineering teacher.

* Levi inadvertently caused a panic, not realizing that his homemade charger might cause alarm.
* Ahmed showed his "homemade" clock to several teachers even after being told to keep it hidden.

This isn't true. He showed it to his engineering teacher who said that after seeing it then the English class thing happened. I won't be debating you on the basic facts, MM

* Levi openly cooperated with school officials and the police.
* Ahmed adopted a passive aggressive attitude and would only say, "It's a clock," no matter what he was asked.

So... he told the truth? The negative twist here is &yawn& And which cops did Levi cooperate with? The Katu story doesn't mention them. I'm surprised the KATU journalist left that out, or are you just full of it?

* Levi and his family accepted his (unfair) punishment with good grace.
* Ahmed's family is currently suing a number of organizations and individuals, demanding repartitions for Ahmed's little stunt.

Man, it's almost like I enumerated a bunch of serious difference between these stories, who'd have thought? And, uhh, in what world is a 1.5 day suspension for inadvertently causing a "bomb drill" unfair? Like, I don't think you get that nobody at this kids school thinks it was anything but a misunderstand while you, and hundreds like you, still have it hard on for Ahmed.

No, the school is being sued for defamation. Which, yeah, that's going to be hard to defend outside of Breitbart-land.

All things considered, it certainly seems that Levi is more deserving of praise than Clock Boy, don't you think. So where is Levi's White House invite? When will the left celebrate Levi as a teenage genius who was treated unfairly because of a simple misunderstanding? Do you think Google, Mark Zuckerberg, MIT, NASA, etc. are currently drafting congratulatory notices to Levi with promises of scholarships and internships? Is Microsoft going to ship thousands of dollars worth of merchandise to reward Levi for his ingenuity?

What's that? Ahmed is Muslim, and Levi is Jewish?

Ooooooh...

He was treated fine. He got suspended for a day and a half and his family has chocked the whole thing up as just another goofy adventure for their kid. He wasn't arrested and I can find nothing to substantiate that race played any factor here in their decision. The local news called it "High school student suspended over homemade charger" which is accurate, not inflammatory at all and nothing like the news coverage that lasted for months assaulting his character.

Funny though,

You somehow managed to leave out that the clock was with Ahmed the whole time, but this student left the device unattended plugged into the wall of the locker room and the panic started while he was not there to explain and by the time he was able to tell the coach it was too late to stop it. He wasn't punished for the device, as Ahmed was suspended, but because of the disturbance that a weird looking device caused in the gym teacher. This Matters

You also left out that the police were called and they processed him without his parents presence and the rest of that nonsense that went down. Those images of a skinny brown kid in a NASA t-shirt looking confused while the cops mill around is powerful stuff and reflects the problems and struggles that many people deal with as it relates to racial prejudice on a daily basis. This Oregon school was wise to handle it themselves. That wisdom generated key differences. Police not being their means no arrests, no spectacle. Because they didn't create spectacle, they don't need to defend their actions publicly which increases the cycle of the news allowing for more momentum to build.

Seriously, MM, these are exceptionally different scenario's.

[Mountain Man]

I won't be debating you on the basic facts, MM

Do we really have to go through this again?

* Ahmed has a history of being a trouble maker.

You found a story that confirmed this, so no need to discuss it further.

* Ahmed simply transferred a pre-made clock into a different housing, and even then did a rather poor job.

You say this isn't relevant; on the contrary, it is very relevant when Ahmed was widely praised by the left as a teenage genius who "invented" a clock when his project wasn't actually an invention, and, to put it bluntly, was amateurish even for a 14-year old.

* Ahmed admitted his "homemade" clock looked suspicious but brought it to school anyway.

Clock Boy in his own words: ""

* Ahmed showed his "homemade" clock to several teachers even after being told to keep it hidden.

Mark Cuban spoke with Clock Boy shortly after the incident

Source: Frontpage Mag

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2601...robert-spencer

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In other words, Ahmed was a punk pulling a stunt with a ham-handed "homemade" clock that he knew looked suspicious, and he got exactly the reaction that he and his family were hoping for.

You're right about the police thing, though. I thought the police had been called on Levi, but apparently because he was open and honest with school administrators, the matter was quickly settled without police involvement. Contrast this with Ahmed's deceitful and passive aggressive behavior.

But let's switch students. Suppose Levi was in Ahmed's position and Ahmed was in Levi's position. Now which story do you suppose liberals would have focused on? The passive aggressive white Jewish kid who pulled a prank on school officials with a suspicious device, or the Muslim kid who was a model student who was unfairly punished over a misunderstanding? The follow-up questions is why would liberals choose to focus on one story and not the other?

I'm pretty sure you know the answer.

[Jaecp]

MM, It's clear as day that you don't have any way to answer the actual points I brought up since you, for 3 posts in a row now, have refused to directly address the points I have brought up and have simply repeated yourself and it's getting kind of sad dude. These situations are not similar and you have not done the legwork to demonstrate that they are. I have written answers to almost every single point you brought up here, actually, it's in the post right above yours! Great, eh? Try replying to what I actually said and we can continue this, but this evasiveness is really lame dude

[rogue06]

Source: 'Clock Boy' Loses in Court, Father's Defamation Lawsuit Dismissed

A district court judge in Texas has dismissed a defamation lawsuit filed by Ahmed Mohamed on his own behalf and on behalf of his 15-year-old son, Ahmed Mohamed. They had sued Fox News, Glenn Beck, and the mayor of Irving -- among others -- for defamation in September of 2016.

A year earlier, Ahmed, then a 14-year-old freshman at an Irving, Texas, high school, was arrested, briefly detained by police, and suspended for three days after bringing to school a "cool clock" that looked like a briefcase bomb. Ahmed claimed to have "invented" the easily assembled clock, and that he had brought it to school to show it to his shop teacher.

The incident led many to question the Mohamed family's motives. Newly appointed District Court Judge Maricela Moore dismissed the lawsuit following a nearly three-hour hearing on Monday, according to the American Freedom Law Center:

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[*Story continues at the link above*]

First, it needs to be noted that the judge in the case is a Democrat.

Second, I kinda wish the case proceeded in that I would really like to hear the school's side of all this. We only heard Ahmed and his family's account.

[Cow Poke]

First, it needs to be noted that the judge in the case is a Democrat.

Second, I kinda wish the case proceeded in that I would really like to hear the school's side of all this. We only heard Ahmed and his family's account.

Yeah, I'd love to hear from all the liberals who were rushing to this 'poor kid's defense.

[Mountain Man]

Source: 'Clock Boy' Loses in Court, Father's Defamation Lawsuit Dismissed

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So the lawyer wasn't even ready to present his case? Or was he vainly hoping he wouldn't be asked? It boggles my mind that he would waste 15-minutes looking for something he had to know didn't exist.

[Cow Poke]

So the lawyer wasn't even ready to present his case? Or was he vainly hoping he wouldn't be asked? It boggles my mind that he would waste 15-minutes looking for something he had to know didn't exist.

Perhaps he was lulled into a false sense of confidence by the liberals who were singing the praises of clock boy and declaring anybody who didn't kiss his butt as "anti-Muslim". Maybe he just figured he'd sail through that hearing unopposed.

[Mountain Man]

Perhaps he was lulled into a false sense of confidence by the liberals who were singing the praises of clock boy and declaring anybody who didn't kiss his butt as "anti-Muslim". Maybe he just figured he'd sail through that hearing unopposed.

I think we need to call this "the Hillary effect".

[One Bad Pig]

So the lawyer wasn't even ready to present his case? Or was he vainly hoping he wouldn't be asked? It boggles my mind that he would waste 15-minutes looking for something he had to know didn't exist.

The lawyer was a woman, not a man. The judge asked her a question she wasn't prepared to answer. It happens. Of course, she should had at least her best case evidence at the tips of her fingers; either her notes didn't include the medium used in the alleged defamation, or her best allegations weren't broadcast.

[Mountain Man]

The lawyer was a woman, not a man. The judge asked her a question she wasn't prepared to answer. It happens.

It regularly happens that a lawyer is not prepared to present the key piece of evidence to make their case?

Remember, they were suing for defamation, so you would think that evidence of the defendants making false statements would be at the top of the stack.

[One Bad Pig]

Remember, they were suing for defamation, so you would think that evidence of the defendants making false statements would be at the top of the stack.

Well, yes. I addressed that in the rest of my post.