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14-year-old Texas boy arrested for bringing homemade clock
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"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostLike I said before, the terrorists won in the end.
If kids can't bring any kind of electronic device without it being seen as a bomb, then the terrorists really did get exactly what they want - everybody in the US living in an irrational fear, based on ignorance and stereotypes. This is not a matter of ' See something, say something' it's a case of people in general just assuming that Arabic people - including the children - are always up to no good.
Seriously, it's just as foolhardy to assume that someone from Group X must be innocent because the assumption of guilt is racist (which misses a lot of forest from trees) as it is to assume that all members of Group X are guilty.
Context, it's what's for supper!"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostYeah, we should only worry if it looks like a computer has been gutted and dumped in a box.
Seriously, it's just as foolhardy to assume that someone from Group X must be innocent because the assumption of guilt is racist (which misses a lot of forest from trees) as it is to assume that all members of Group X are guilty.
Context, it's what's for supper!"The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostYou're being silly because I've known plenty of people that have brought in electronics, of all types, and somehow have managed not to get arrested or in any sort of trouble at all (even those who have brown skin tones). If you're going to bring in something that looks a lot like the classic image of bombs (and yes, a clock can easily be modified into one, with little to no work involved), than don't be surprised if people ask you questions about it.
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostIt must be racism Teal. That is the only explanation possible (of course, I went to school with people of many different races and somehow most of them managed not to get arrested or suspended, but hey, we don't need those 'fact' things getting in the way).
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostOh, why didn't you say so? This kid must have had it coming then."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostYeah, that stupid Muslim kid should have known that it looked like a bomb, duh! I mean, you and all of the other conservative say it looks like one, so it must be true."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostYeah, that stupid Muslim kid should have known that it looked like a bomb, duh! I mean, you and all of the other conservative say it looks like one, so it must be true."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostAnd another non-answer again. It's called having a little sense. If I would have come though the front gate onto my base, with something like that sitting in the open, I bet I would have been stopped and questioned about it and I'm sure the dogs would have been sniffing my car. Crying racism or some other charge doesn't refute having a little sense. If you're going to be carrying around things that look a lot like triggers for bombs; don't be surprised if somebody ask you questions about what you have.
No matter what I say, I'm going to get misunderstood, piss off someone, and get told I'm irrational for not agreeing with the conservative crowd here. It's fine that this a place for conservative Christians to hang out with like minded people, but the more I time I spend on here, the more I get the impression that I don't think really think most care what I have to say - which is not something that offends me at all.
I'm not trying to be melodramatic, nor am I 'thin-skinned' - as I'm no doubt sure to be accused of. I just feel I should call time on this adventure into Christian circles I made back in 2008, and go do other things. It's been real getting to know you all.
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostYou know what? I really don't care anymore. I've simply had enough and I don't think this site is a place for me at this point.
No matter what I say, I'm going to get misunderstood, piss off someone, and get told I'm irrational for not agreeing with the conservative crowd here. It's fine that this a place for conservative Christians to hang out with like minded people, but the more I time I spend on here, the more I get the impression that I don't think really think most care what I have to say - which is not something that offends me at all.
I'm not trying to be melodramatic, nor am I 'thin-skinned' - as I'm no doubt sure to be accused of. I just feel I should call time on this adventure into Christian circles I made back in 2008, and go do other things. It's been real getting to know you all.
Maybe take a break and come back later?"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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Originally posted by Sea of red View PostYou know what? I really don't care anymore. I've simply had enough and I don't think this site is a place for me at this point.
No matter what I say, I'm going to get misunderstood, piss off someone, and get told I'm irrational for not agreeing with the conservative crowd here. It's fine that this a place for conservative Christians to hang out with like minded people, but the more I time I spend on here, the more I get the impression that I don't think really think most care what I have to say - which is not something that offends me at all.
I'm not trying to be melodramatic, nor am I 'thin-skinned' - as I'm no doubt sure to be accused of. I just feel I should call time on this adventure into Christian circles I made back in 2008, and go do other things. It's been real getting to know you all.
Last edited by lilpixieofterror; 09-22-2015, 09:09 PM."The man from the yacht thought he was the first to find England; I thought I was the first to find Europe. I did try to found a heresy of my own; and when I had put the last touches to it, I discovered that it was orthodoxy."
GK Chesterton; Orthodoxy
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Originally posted by Teallaura View PostIn a video the kid states he altered the locking mechanism to make it less suspicious, so he evidently understood it could cause concern."I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"
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Originally posted by lilpixieofterror View PostI've been in the military for over 10 years. I've had a few briefings on these type of subjects and cobbled together electronics is actually one of the things you'd look for, when it comes to spotting an IED. It really isn't that difficult to turn a clock into a trigger for a bomb. See, my comments have zero to do with it being a liberal/conservative issue and everything to do with my military training and what I was taught in briefings by those who work in UOD. I would have been stopped by the gate guards, on my base, if I had something similar to that why would you be surprised that you're going to be questioned if you have something that looks like a bomb trigger in your possession? Cry racism all you want, but even me, a white Christian woman, would have been stopped and asked about this, if I had something like this coming onto my base. It has zero to do with racism and everything to do with what officials should be doing. Do I think arresting him was going too far? Yeah, it doesn't take more than a few minutes to determine that it is just a clock stuffed into a new case, but I wouldn't blame anybody for asking the questions about what it is and why it is on their possession. Would you prefer a staff that asked the questions dealing with your child's safety or one that could care less about your child's safety? I don't care what liberals or conservatives say at all (and yes, I do agree with you that we have become more fearful in this day and age than we should be), but you need to use a little bit of sense too. If you're carrying around things that look a lot like bomb triggers, don't be too surprised when you're asked about them by an official.
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Originally posted by Sam View PostNo, again, what the kid said in the video was that he closed the case with a cord instead of locking it because a lock would look suspicious. The kid at no point indicated that he thought the contents looked suspicious."He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." - Jim Elliot
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