Thread: Bush & Jack Van Impe?
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August 14th 2003, 11:17 AM #1
Bush & Jack Van Impe?
- Disclaimer: This is not verified as being true... only that Van Impe claims it is true. Do I trust Van Impe? Not really. Does it smack of Bushiness? Yes. I'd love to see some external confirmation of this.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/943879.asp?cp1=1
Is Bush getting apocalyptic advice?
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MSNBC
Aug. 13 — Is the Bush administration turning to a televangelist doomsayer for political predictions? Apocalyptic preacher Jack Van Impe is claiming that he was contacted by Condoleezza Rice’s office and the White House Office of Public Liaison for an “outline” of his take on world events.
VAN IMPE is the author of such books as “Israel’s Final Holocaust” and “The Great Escape: Preparing for the Rapture, the Next Event on God’s Prophetic Clock.”
He has predicted that the end of the world will strike somewhere between 2003 and 2012 and one reviewer has called his TV preaching show with wife Rexella “a fantastically loopy apocalyptic take on the week’s news.”
The issue of the alleged involvement with the Bush administration came up on his Web site when someone asked Van Impe, “Do you think that President Bush, apparently a Christian man, believes and knows he is involved in prophetic events concerning the Middle East and final battle between good and evil?”
“I believe he is a wonderful man,” Van Impe responded, and goes on to say, “I was contacted a few weeks ago by the Office of Public Liaison for the White House and by the National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice to make an outline. And I’ve spent hours preparing it. I will release this information to the public in September, but it’s in his hands. He will know exactly what is going to happen in the Middle East and what part he will have under the leading of the Holy Spirit of God. So, it’s a tremendous time to be alive.”
“My investigation into it is that there’s no truth to it,” National Security Council spokesman Sean McCormack told The Scoop, “but I’m continuing to look into it.”
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August 14th 2003, 11:19 AM #2Why? Because it would discredit him, and because you believed the report that the only reason we went into Iraq was because God told him to?Does it smack of Bushiness? Yes.
Just a note, $cir is right. -Sparko
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August 14th 2003, 11:27 AM #3
- No, I'm not in the habit of believing things just because they sound pretty to me. =) I fully recognize that Van Impe may be lying.
- However, Bush has flaunted his fundamentalism at every opportunity and driven his beliefs into federal government programs and policies (and not without some severe criticism, see my post on the twisting of science). He continues to give me every indication that he actively seeks out fundamentalist authors and evangelists for "advice"... their handiwork is all over his stances.
- Again, this might be 100% false. But it wouldn't be a great departure from Bush's religious beliefs.
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August 14th 2003, 12:28 PM #4The rain, it started tapping on the window near my bed.
There was a loophole in my dreaming, so I got out of it.
And to my surprise my eyes were wide and already open.
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August 14th 2003, 01:10 PM #5I guess I didn't realize that it was "separation of religion and politics."Today @ 11:28 AM post located here
BeHereNow:
"And we base it, our history, and our decision making, our future, on solid values. The first value is, we're all God's children. "
-- Not even attempting to rhetorically separate his religion and politics anymore, Washington, D.C., Jul. 16, 2003
I guess we'd might as well just visciously condemn many things most of the past presidents did and said.
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August 14th 2003, 01:29 PM #6- If they merged religion and politics? Yup.I guess we'd might as well just visciously condemn many things most of the past presidents did and said.
- Appeal to authority.
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August 14th 2003, 05:30 PM #7That's not relevant to what Bush said. I don't care about J. Edgar Hoover because he isn't our president. When Bush is out of office I won't care about what he said either. But for now...Jinx72:
I guess I didn't realize that it was "separation of religion and politics."
I guess we'd might as well just visciously condemn many things most of the past presidents did and said.
Our decision making and our future are based on the value that we are all God's children? Huh?The rain, it started tapping on the window near my bed.
There was a loophole in my dreaming, so I got out of it.
And to my surprise my eyes were wide and already open.
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