Thread: Rumsfeld resigning now!
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November 8th 2006, 03:57 PM #31
Re: Rumsfeld resigning now!
Of course Rummy just happened to "step down" right after a Category 5 Hurricane destroyed the Republican majority because of the Iraq war.
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-Robert Kennedy, Day of Affirmation Address, Capetown University, South Africa 1966.
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November 8th 2006, 04:14 PM #32
Re: Rumsfeld resigning now!
That’s a fair point, but you still have a problem. If he’s a “superb leader” at a “crucial time” he shouldn’t step down because he’s deserting the country when it needs a “superb leader” most. Either he agrees with GW and is letting us down, or he disagrees with GW about him being a “superb leader” OR, Bush was just saying that cause to save face.
Originally posted by Darth Executor
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November 8th 2006, 04:20 PM #33
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There are more possibilities than those. He is an army man, sure of himself and with the discipline to handle any criticism. I don't see that kind of guy deciding to just give up. I'm guessing that he decided to drop out if the Republicans didn't do well in the election, perhaps as a symbolic gesture, since the Republicans lost because of Iraq and he took most of the heat for it.
Originally posted by Pitchforkpat
By the way, I have noticed a large improvement in your posts lately. As a "reward", I'm gonna take you off ignore and put SoundByte there instead."Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
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November 8th 2006, 04:49 PM #34
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Or, as a symbolic gesture, Bush told him to pack up and leave, after all, Rumsfelf is an army man, sure of himself and with the discipline to handle any criticism or getting fired.
Originally posted by Darth Executor
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November 8th 2006, 05:00 PM #35
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Really? That's the best reward I've had in a while. Thanks!
Originally posted by Darth Executor
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November 8th 2006, 05:01 PM #36
Re: Rumsfeld resigning now!
My theory makes more sense than yours and is more inline with Bush's way of thinking. The man rarely admits he did anything wrong or stupid.
Originally posted by Busheses
"Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.
And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace
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November 8th 2006, 05:09 PM #37
Re: Rumsfeld resigning now!
You are assuming that the majority of the public will want everything that the Dems put out. When the Dems call for tax raises, nutty social programs and the like, Americans will be glad that Bush used the veto power.
Originally posted by Busheses
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November 8th 2006, 05:25 PM #38
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I couldn’t care less whose ignore list I’m on. Frankly I think the practice is childish, but thanks for the info. Oops…that probably got me put back on ignore.
Originally posted by Darth Executor
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November 8th 2006, 05:27 PM #39
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this is a wonderful day!
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November 8th 2006, 06:05 PM #40
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You are right, he rarely admits to being wrong publicly but this decision was made in private. Unless of course you have insider's infor to which we are not privy but you are.
Originally posted by Darth Executor
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November 8th 2006, 06:14 PM #41
Re: Rumsfeld resigning now!
Dumping Rummy is a public admission, just not vocalized. And I said he rarely admits he is wrong. Nothing about "public", that's your own addition to justify conjuring up a separate private standard. His public face is all I can see so I assume he's equally hard headed in real life until proven otherwise.
Originally posted by Busheses
"Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.
And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace
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November 8th 2006, 06:17 PM #42
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Or it could be they know that the Dems will come for Rumsfield so they dump him now and appoint a new guy while the current house and senate still have the power to confirm him thereby taking away that play for the class comming in January.
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November 8th 2006, 06:27 PM #43
Re: Rumsfeld resigning now!
I've been reading up on impeachment and I don't think they can "come for him", or that they would have even tried. Bush could've kept him on. Which isn't to say that the republicans won't benefit. If the new SoD does a good job, the Republicans can claim credit for it, even if the democrats are responsible for an improvement. I don't think this is premeditated because if it was, the Republicans would've dumped him much earlier. Since Karl Rove is an evil genius, I have no doubt he would've thought of it before me.
"Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.
And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace
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November 8th 2006, 06:48 PM #44
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We have a self appointed politics expert here in TWeb it seems. Bush should contact you and dump Rove
Originally posted by Darth Executor
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November 8th 2006, 06:55 PM #45
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I'd rather become SoD myself, actually. I'd clean up Iraq in weeks.
Originally posted by Busheses
"Years ago, I mean decades ago, I read a quote about politicians performing quid pro quo favors for campaign cash, and whether or not we could prove it. The guy who was quoted opined that it was difficult to determine. He noted that in many cases, the payoff might not take the form of votes on legislative action -- those might be detectable, and so are avoided -- but could take subtler forms, like the question that is never asked at a hearing.
The media's doing a terrific job of not asking questions it doesn't want to know the answer to. It doesn't ask these questions in bulk, and the great volume of questions it doesn't ask makes it cheap to not ask questions.
And it passes these savings on to you, the customer." Ace
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