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      Q. on U.S. Pledge of Allegience.

      According Jason Ball, student trustee of Orange Coast College, "if you know your history, you know that 'under God' was inserted during the McCarthy era and was directly designed to destroy my ideology."

      Is that true that the "under God" was added in the McCarthy are?

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      Re: Q. on U.S. Pledge of Allegience.

      Is that true that the "under God" was added in the McCarthy are?
      Yes, it is true. On June 14, 1954 to be percise.

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      Re: Q. on U.S. Pledge of Allegience.

      Around the same time "In God We Trust" was placed on US currencyif I'm not mistaken.
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      Re: Q. on U.S. Pledge of Allegience.

      Ball is a communist?

      By the way, he's killed his own argument with his terminology. If atheism is no more than an ideology it doesn't enjoy the same level of protection as religion.
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      Re: Q. on U.S. Pledge of Allegience.

      Quote Originally posted by Amazing Rando
      Around the same time "In God We Trust" was placed on US currencyif I'm not mistaken.
      Um, you're mistaken.

      Teddy Roosevelt, when he commissioned the gold double-eagle coin, specifically said he did not want the motto "In God We Trust" to appear on it, because he suspected the coin would be popular in gambling halls and did not want to see God's name profaned.

      And Teddy was worm food well before the '50's.

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      Quote Originally posted by Braveheart
      Um, you're mistaken.

      Teddy Roosevelt, when he commissioned the gold double-eagle coin, specifically said he did not want the motto "In God We Trust" to appear on it, because he suspected the coin would be popular in gambling halls and did not want to see God's name profaned.

      And Teddy was worm food well before the '50's.
      I stand corrected. Wikipedia says the motto was on US currency back in Civil War days. I had confused that with its being made the official national motto, which Eisenhower did in 1956.
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      Re: Q. on U.S. Pledge of Allegience.

      Quote Originally posted by Amazing Rando
      I stand corrected. Wikipedia says the motto was on US currency back in Civil War days. I had confused that with its being made the official national motto, which Eisenhower did in 1956.


      It was a Civil War thing. I think its first appearance was on a 3c piece?
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      Re: Q. on U.S. Pledge of Allegience.

      2 cent coins in the 1860s
      Here is one for auction on Ebay:
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      Re: Q. on U.S. Pledge of Allegience.

      Quote Originally posted by Mark_S


      It was a Civil War thing. I think its first appearance was on a 3c piece?
      We need to bring back the three cent piece. And also perhaps an eight-cent coin too.
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      Quote Originally posted by Amazing Rando
      We need to bring back the three cent piece. And also perhaps an eight-cent coin too.
      Might want to think twice about that. Right now too many cashiers rely on cash registers that display "Cash Back" to figure out the amount.

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      Quote Originally posted by Minnesota
      Might want to think twice about that. Right now too many cashiers rely on cash registers that display "Cash Back" to figure out the amount.
      I had to laugh. I've worked part-time as a cashier for over three years... and let me tell you, some of our newbies can't for the LIFE of them figure out how to VERY quickly give someone change back if they hand over $2.00 for something worth $1.39... they always ask me "um.. how do you count up from an uneven number...??" while the customer is either patiently or not-so-patiently waiting for their sixty-one cents. I finally hit their "change owed button" and ....

      Yeah, PLEASE no 8-cent coins. Please. *feels a headache coming on*
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