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      Who is Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Christ according to the scriptures ?
      Chapter / Verse only no playing on words ok .

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      Quote Originally posted by Abraham
      Who is Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Christ according to the scriptures ?
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      Why do you ask? Are you going to look into the claims or do what you've done before and break into a puerile chorus of laughter or not do any spadework?

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      Quote Originally posted by Jnthn
      Why do you ask? Are you going to look into the claims or do what you've done before and break into a puerile chorus of laughter or not do any spadework?

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      I take you don't know hey its ok .

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      I take you don't know hey its ok .
      Oh, I know, but I've observed your gamesmanship, so how about answering my question? Quid pro quo.

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      Quote Originally posted by Abraham
      Who is Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Christ according to the scriptures ?
      Chapter / Verse only no playing on words ok .


      "Simon Peter replied, ‘You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.’ And Jesus answered him, ‘Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jona! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven’" (Matt. 16:16-17).

      "In the beginning was the Word (i.e. Jesus), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God" (John 1:1).

      "Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am (I Am = the name/nature of God)" (John 8:58).


      "‘I and the Father are one’" (John 10:30).

      "For in him [Christ] the whole fulness of deity dwells bodily" (Col. 2:9).

      "In many and various ways God spoke of old to our fathers by the prophets; but in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. He reflects the glory of God and bears the very stamp of his nature, upholding the universe by his word of power . . ." (Heb. 1:1-3).

      "But of the Son he says, "Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever, the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy kingdom. . . . And, "Thou, Lord, didst found the earth in the beginning, and the heavens are the work of thy hands." (Heb. 1:8, 10)

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      Quote Originally posted by Jnthn
      Oh, I know, but I've observed your gamesmanship, so how about answering my question? Quid pro quo.

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      LOLOLOLOL If you think this is a game , Then play by the rules of the game and answer the question ok ( Who is Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Christ according to the scriptures ? Chapter / Verse only no playing on words ok .) If not let those who can answer it .
      Last edited by Abraham; November 18th 2006 at 10:30 AM. Reason: had to add something

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      Quote Originally posted by Abraham
      Who is Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Christ according to the scriptures ?
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      "I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die." - John 11:25-26

      "Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?" - 1 John 5:5

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      Re: Question ; For the christians

      Quote Originally posted by Abraham
      Who is Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Christ according to the scriptures ?
      Chapter / Verse only no playing on words ok .

      Hi Abraham,

      I understand that you want no play on words. And since i dont know you (what your background is, the reason for your question, if you are asking an honest question or trying to justify a disbelief, etc.)....

      So in light of the post by Jnthn and my ignorance of your intentions, i hope that you will accept a bit of my straying from the path of your original question... in other words, i'll try to stay away from word play, but you have to honestly consider and think of the implications.


      In the first chapter of Malachi, God is pointing out to His people that they question and doubt His love for them. In verses 6-14, God turns it around, showing them that they are not giving the "firstfruits"and the "unblemished"; that their offerings and actions are not offered and acted out of love for Him.


      Now the New Testament:

      In Mat 9:13 (Jesus is answering the Pharisees) But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

      In Luke chapter 2, starting at verse 25, Simeon had been promised that he would not die until he saw the Lord's Christ. In verses 30-32, Simeon is praising and thanking God for letting him see God's "salvation... prepared, for all people"...
      Just a thought here, Abraham... "prepared" ..for a sacrifice? If it does mean 'prepared for a sacrifice, then it is God that prepared and it is God that sacrificed Jesus. And taking into account Jesus death on the cross AND the rebuke that God gave His people in the above Malachi quote-- do you think that God would sacrifice anything less than perfection?

      And according to the Judeo-Christian worldview, only God is perfection. And that also gives extra meaning to Jesus' words to the Pharisees in Mat 9:13 and the verses preceeding. (publicans and sinners; "learn what that meaneth"; etc.)

      I hope that i didnt stray too far from your desire of staying away from word play and i hope that it was a good enough answer for you.

      God Bless,
      johnny

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      Lightbulb Re: Question ; For the christians

      Quote Originally posted by xtreem5150ahm
      Hi Abraham,

      I understand that you want no play on words. And since i dont know you (what your background is, the reason for your question, if you are asking an honest question or trying to justify a disbelief, etc.)....

      So in light of the post by Jnthn and my ignorance of your intentions, i hope that you will accept a bit of my straying from the path of your original question... in other words, i'll try to stay away from word play, but you have to honestly consider and think of the implications.


      In the first chapter of Malachi, God is pointing out to His people that they question and doubt His love for them. In verses 6-14, God turns it around, showing them that they are not giving the "firstfruits"and the "unblemished"; that their offerings and actions are not offered and acted out of love for Him.


      Now the New Testament:

      In Mat 9:13 (Jesus is answering the Pharisees) But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

      In Luke chapter 2, starting at verse 25, Simeon had been promised that he would not die until he saw the Lord's Christ. In verses 30-32, Simeon is praising and thanking God for letting him see God's "salvation... prepared, for all people"...
      Just a thought here, Abraham... "prepared" ..for a sacrifice? If it does mean 'prepared for a sacrifice, then it is God that prepared and it is God that sacrificed Jesus. And taking into account Jesus death on the cross AND the rebuke that God gave His people in the above Malachi quote-- do you think that God would sacrifice anything less than perfection?

      And according to the Judeo-Christian worldview, only God is perfection. And that also gives extra meaning to Jesus' words to the Pharisees in Mat 9:13 and the verses preceeding. (publicans and sinners; "learn what that meaneth"; etc.)

      I hope that i didnt stray too far from your desire of staying away from word play and i hope that it was a good enough answer for you.

      God Bless,
      johnny




      johnny -- Sound like another Sermon / Testimony , Can we get back to the question at hand ?

      Thanks for trying .

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      Re: Question ; For the christians

      Quote Originally posted by Abraham
      Can we get back to the question at hand ?

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      LOL if that was Sermon / Testimony , then it might have been one of the shortest Sermon / Testimony in history.


      I think i see what Jnthn meant. Sorry for giving you the benefit of the doubt.


      i showed that at first glance of Mat 9:13 that Jesus was, at the very least, a prophet, come to call sinners to repentance.

      In the Lucian account, there is the possibility of implication that Jesus is a sacrifice.
      If He is a sacrifice, then who (Who) sacrificed Him and for whom was He sacrificed? (Hint: God is the Who and sinners are the 'whom').

      If Jesus is the sacrifice from God, only a Perfect sacrifice would suffice....according to God's own words in Malachi, lest God be a hypocrite Himself.

      Who is perfect, according to the Judeo-Christian worldview, apart from God?

      (Hint: Jesus is God, according to scripture, which answers your original question)

      God Bless,
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      Quote Originally posted by Abraham
      LOLOLOLOL If you think this is a game , Then play by the rules of the game and answer the question ok ( Who is Yashu'a , Isa , Jesus Christ according to the scriptures ? Chapter / Verse only no playing on words ok .) If not let those who can answer it .
      This is no court of law so I'm not obliged to play things your way.

      Why are you being so evasive? If you are seeking answers, answering me will open a door to a wealth of answers.

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      Quote Originally posted by Jnthn
      This is no court of law so I'm not obliged to play things your way.

      Why are you being so evasive? If you are seeking answers, answering me will open a door to a wealth of answers.

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      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL As of yet you haven't answer the question just complaining and trying to change the subject and wasteing your time here .

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      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL As of yet you haven't answer the question just complaining and trying to change the subject and wasteing your time here .
      Posing the question "why do you ask" couldn't be any more on topic. Now are you going to answer.

      (and for heaven's sake, pack it in with the LOLs. You sound like a retarded walrus)

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      Quote Originally posted by Jnthn
      Posing the question "why do you ask" couldn't be any more on topic. Now are you going to answer.

      (and for heaven's sake, pack it in with the LOLs. You sound like a retarded walrus)

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      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Take your Reptilian butt and leave ok your dismiss later .

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      Quote Originally posted by Abraham
      LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Take your Reptilian butt and leave ok your dismiss later .
      Well, it's obvious you're a troll, but no. I'm not going anywhere

      J
      Last edited by Jnthn; November 18th 2006 at 12:34 PM.
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