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Second Hand Smoke - is it dangerous?

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  • Second Hand Smoke - is it dangerous?

    Have the "second hand smoke is dangerous" claims been overdone? Have they been debunked?
    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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    Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
    Have the "second hand smoke is dangerous" claims been overdone? Have they been debunked?
    Not debunked and not overdone, I'm afraid. Second-hand smoke is dangerous to non-smokers.

    Here's a PubMed article from 2004 indicating that second-hand smoke (SHS) causes lung cancer in non-smokers.

    Here's a 2010 study that found SHS increases the risk of cardiovascular or circulatory mortality.
    "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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    • #3
      New studies suggest it isn't that dangerous. (note personally I despise smoking and mine beloved is hyper-allergic to cigarette smoke)

      http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...ates-big-lies/

      http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/conte...djt365.extract
      A large prospective cohort study of more than 76,000 women confirmed a strong association between cigarette smoking and lung cancer but found no link between the disease and secondhand smoke.

      http://www.forestonline.org/info/passive-smoking/

      Again personally I think there is a danger and as I said, I don't like smoking in the slightest.
      Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.
      1 Corinthians 16:13

      "...he [Doherty] is no historian and he is not even conversant with the historical discussions of the very matters he wants to pontificate on."
      -Ben Witherington III

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      • #4
        Thanks, Sam -- this came up in shoutbox yesterday that, in essence, there's not a "second hand smoke" study that hasn't been debunked.

        Personally, I feel bad for little kids in a closed up car where adults are smoking, just driving down the road not having a clue (or not caring?) about the impact they're having on the little kids.
        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Raphael View Post
          New studies suggest it isn't that dangerous. (note personally I despise smoking and mine beloved is hyper-allergic to cigarette smoke)

          http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...ates-big-lies/

          http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/conte...djt365.extract
          A large prospective cohort study of more than 76,000 women confirmed a strong association between cigarette smoking and lung cancer but found no link between the disease and secondhand smoke.

          http://www.forestonline.org/info/passive-smoking/

          Again personally I think there is a danger and as I said, I don't like smoking in the slightest.
          Interesting.
          The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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          • #6
            all I know is if you let the smoke out of something electronic, it quits working.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Raphael View Post
              New studies suggest it isn't that dangerous. (note personally I despise smoking and mine beloved is hyper-allergic to cigarette smoke)

              http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...ates-big-lies/
              Is it too much to ask for articles to specifically name (and/or link to) the study they're referencing.


              Originally posted by Raphael View Post
              http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/conte...djt365.extract
              A large prospective cohort study of more than 76,000 women confirmed a strong association between cigarette smoking and lung cancer but found no link between the disease and secondhand smoke.
              I didn't pay for the full text, but this comes from the extract:

              However, among women who had never smoked, exposure to passive smoking overall, and to most categories of passive smoking, did not statistically significantly increase lung cancer risk. The only category of exposure that showed a trend toward increased risk was living in the same house with a smoker for 30 years or more.
              That makes it sound like it's doing something, even if it's only in large doses.


              Another one that doesn't reference specific studies, and this one comes from a pro-smoking site. Two of the parts in that article are from assembly reports, which doesn't really say anything at all.



              These are criticisms of your links, not you.
              I'm not here anymore.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Raphael View Post
                New studies suggest it isn't that dangerous. (note personally I despise smoking and mine beloved is hyper-allergic to cigarette smoke)

                http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ja...ates-big-lies/

                http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/conte...djt365.extract
                A large prospective cohort study of more than 76,000 women confirmed a strong association between cigarette smoking and lung cancer but found no link between the disease and secondhand smoke.

                http://www.forestonline.org/info/passive-smoking/

                Again personally I think there is a danger and as I said, I don't like smoking in the slightest.
                "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                • #9
                  Would anybody still support the initial claims that second hand smoke is WORSE than smoking?
                  The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                  • #10
                    The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
                      Would anybody still support the initial claims that second hand smoke is WORSE than smoking?
                      "I wonder about the trees. / Why do we wish to bear / Forever the noise of these / More than another noise / Robert Frost, "The Sound of Trees"

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                      • #12
                        I concur -- I'm thinking it was just media hype -- it made a good story. It had "fright factor".
                        The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                        • #13
                          but wouldn't the smoker also be exposed to the same levels of SHS as well as the direct smoke?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sparko View Post
                            but wouldn't the smoker also be exposed to the same levels of SHS as well as the direct smoke?
                            And in closer proximity than those around him/her? AND, 100% of the time, as opposed to others who probably are not!
                            The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.

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                            • #15
                              what kinda irks me is that a lot of people are so against smokers and SHS and want to basically ban tobacco use altogether, but at the same time want to legalize marijuana.

                              derp.

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