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  • #16
    Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
    Please note carefully what I said. There is a semantic difference between 'human' and 'a human.' The latter is synonymous with 'a person'; the former is not.
    As in all humans are persons, but not all persons are humans? Don't know why some people try to make person not include all humans. Hmm... what other groups deny the personhood of certain groups of humans...
    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
      As in all humans are persons, but not all persons are humans? Don't know why some people try to make person not include all humans. Hmm... what other groups deny the personhood of certain groups of humans...
      You misunderstand. As in, it's not a person until it fully exits the birth canal. Until then, it's a parasitic lump of human cells.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by One Bad Pig View Post
        You misunderstand. As in, it's not a person until it fully exits the birth canal. Until then, it's a parasitic lump of human cells.
        That still may get nutrition from the woman after birth and will need someone to keep the organism from getting itself killed or dying from neglect.

        Oh right! The personhood fairy invisibly spirnkles the fetus with fairy dust after it exits the birth canal completely. It's the fairy dust that does it!
        If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
          Why would some parents force their daughter to abort their grandbaby?
          It depends. A lot of is pride and how unwanted pregnancies are viewed.


          Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
          Abortion sounds drastic. What's wrong with crisis pregnancy centers or adoption? Do some people still have a stigma against unwed pregnancy?
          Very much so. It's not nearly as prevalent as it once was, but it still is very much the case (especially in super-religious families). I know of people who have had abortions specifically to keep their families from finding out.
          I'm not here anymore.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Christianbookworm View Post
            As in all humans are persons, but not all persons are humans? Don't know why some people try to make person not include all humans. Hmm... what other groups deny the personhood of certain groups of humans...
            Flip that. All persons are humans, but not all humans are persons. It still doesn't make any logical sense.
            I'm not here anymore.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Carrikature View Post
              Flip that. All persons are humans, but not all humans are persons. It still doesn't make any logical sense.
              That depends on the worldview of course.
              If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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