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Originally posted by Jaecp View PostThis site, currently, exists to remind me that, yes, right wing people here in the US really are advocating for insanity. That fear, fear of things too numerous to count, is a driving force that cannot be mitigated, cannot be assuaged, and cannot be reasoned with. Losses at the polls, a galvanized left, is the only recourse to the cowardice and inability to lead from our "friends across the aisle"
I am, was, a good read. Refreshing.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI'm insane and afraid of innumerable things? Lawl.
AND you're a legend in your own mind.
(And here I thought the meme was liberals being overly sensative, yeesh, buck up shipmate)
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Originally posted by Starlight View PostYou generally don't. Evidence just slides right off you like water off a duck's back. That was why Sam left in disgust....The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Jaecp View PostHere though? Starlight, Adam, these people are crazyThe first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostSam left in embarrassment and anger because he got pushback for saying some really nutty stuff and didn't have charts and graphs to dig his way out. He couldn't stand the heat so he got out of the kitchen.
Edit: Did some searching and apparently it wasn't fireworks as much as it was a damp squib. He basically flipped the bird while running out the door. Typical.Last edited by Mountain Man; 11-25-2015, 09:44 AM.Some may call me foolish, and some may call me odd
But I'd rather be a fool in the eyes of man
Than a fool in the eyes of God
From "Fools Gold" by Petra
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Originally posted by Mountain Man View PostLooks like I missed the fireworks.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Jaecp View PostUnless I missed the part where I called you out specifically, or you self identity with the breitbart crew, you might want to reevaluate. Or not, doesn't matter.(And here I thought the meme was liberals being overly sensative, yeesh, buck up shipmate)Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by One Bad Pig View PostI generally consider myself right-wing and not on the same side of the aisle as you. If you didn't intend to insult me, perhaps you should paint with a narrower brush.
What makes you think I'm hurt because of your comments? You have an overblown sense of self-importance.
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Originally posted by Jaecp View PostCMD seemed to get that I was talking about Breitbart level idiocy, why can't you? Yeesh, I'd almost forgotten about all the stupid posturing that goes on here.Enter the Church and wash away your sins. For here there is a hospital and not a court of law. Do not be ashamed to enter the Church; be ashamed when you sin, but not when you repent. – St. John Chrysostom
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I recommend you do not try too hard and ...research as little as possible. Such weighty things give me a headache. - Shunyadragon, Baha'i apologist
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Originally posted by CMD View PostBeing a fan of Breitbart = you're insane!
Being pro-infanticide ala Starlight = the height of moral and intellectual sanity, apparently."I hate him passionately", he's "a demonic force" - Tucker Carlson, in private, on Donald Trump
"Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism" - George Orwell
"[Capitalism] as it exists today is, in my opinion, the real source of evils. I am convinced there is only one way to eliminate these grave evils, namely through the establishment of a socialist economy" - Albert Einstein
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Originally posted by Starlight View Post"Pro-infanticide" in the same way that people here who support allowing the death penalty are "pro-murder". ie it's absurd way of saying it that speaks volumes about you for doing so.
Originally posted by Starlight View PostOriginally posted by Cow Poke View PostTypical non-answer. Since you can't say when the potential-human actually becomes a for really human, how do you know you're not killing a for really human?
While I'm not a biologist, my understanding of the basics of the situation, is that the human fetus stays mentally under-developed compared to most animals right up until birth. This is because humans walk upright rather than on all fours which causes the human birth canal to be a lot narrower than in most animals. A lot of animals are born pretty much fully-functioning, as their brains develop extensively in the womb. However the human baby's brain gets squeezed a lot as it travels through the much narrower birth canal, which would cause substantial brain-damage if there brain were already developed, so instead the brain undergoes very little development in the womb and develops almost entirely post-birth, with the result that human babies are utterly unable to fend for themselves when first born, unlike many animal babies. As a result, human babies are born with a cognitive level far lower than most animals. Extensive brain development then occurs in the age range 1-4 years old. Almost nobody has even a single memory from when they were younger than about the age of 3. During this period of rapid cognitive development, the baby increasingly gains cognitive capability bringing it on par with various animals, and then beyond them.
So if I had to give a clear answer I'd say age range 1-4. As such, I've got no inherent objection to post-birth-abortion / infanticide / call it whatever you will in the first couple of months after birth if there is some sort of good reason for it. If I was writing a law, I would probably want to draw the line in the sand at 3 months post-birth, as beyond that there's probably enough cognitive development beginning to occur that we're headed into gray areas, and there doesn't seem likely to be any medical motivations to want to explore those gray areas further.
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Originally posted by Jaecp View PostCMD seemed to get that I was talking about Breitbart level idiocy, why can't you? Yeesh, I'd almost forgotten about all the stupid posturing that goes on here.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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