Is Obamacare making the mass abuse of ERs worse?

[Starlight]

Calling your views "pro-infanticide" is hardly "an absurd way of saying it."

There's a massive difference between wanting people to be killed, and thinking it should be legal in certain cases under certain circumstances.

Saying I am pro-infanticide makes it sound like I want as many babies to be killed as possible.

[Zymologist]

There's a massive difference between wanting people to be killed, and thinking it should be legal in certain cases under certain circumstances.

Saying I am pro-infanticide makes it sound like I want as many babies to be killed as possible.

What would be the "certain cases and certain circumstances" in which you would find it (infanticide) unobjectionable? I'm genuinely curious.

[Starlight]

What would be the "certain cases and certain circumstances" in which you would find it (infanticide) unobjectionable? I'm genuinely curious.

Here is an example I consider acceptable. I will not be discussing the topic further.

[Jaecp]

Here is an example I consider acceptable. I will not be discussing the topic further.

Bogs down a thread something fierce

[Adam]

What's to discuss?
All new, liberal things like the Groningen Principle are either obviously the only reasonable way to go (as here) or revoltingly stupid.

[klaus54]

What's to discuss?
All new, liberal things like the Groningen Principle are either obviously the only reasonable way to go (as here) or revoltingly stupid.

What's YOUR American healthcare solution?

Tort reform? (Oh, how politically incorrect!)

A 15% (?) payroll deduction for a single-payer plan?

C'mon

[Zymologist]

Here is an example I consider acceptable. I will not be discussing the topic further.

That's fine. I was just curious.

[Adam]

What's YOUR American healthcare solution?
Tort reform? (Oh, how politically incorrect!)
A 15% (?) payroll deduction for a single-payer plan?
C'mon

Sure.
Plus Death Panels to make insurance feasible. (But not eliminating palliative care, rather INCREASING IT.)

[klaus54]

Sure.
Plus Death Panels to make insurance feasible. (But not eliminating palliative care, rather INCREASING IT.)

Was there an answer in there somewhere?

I axed for POSITIVE solutions.

Do you have a problem with tort reform?

And after such a 15% payroll tax?

[Adam]

Don't you know what the word "Sure" means, particularly when supplemented by "Plus"?
Are you from Germany or Austria? What's your problem?

[klaus54]

Don't you know what the word "Sure" means, particularly when supplemented by "Plus"?
Are you from Germany or Austria? What's your problem?

Still no answers.

Gorsh, I was thinking we good be friends.

Now, seriously -- what's yer American healthcare solution?

P.S. 1) Tort reform

2) 15% payroll tax

You gotta a squawk?

[Adam]

I think we all need to agree to just ignore Klaus54. I don't know how his mind is working.

[Teallaura]

I like Klaus. I don't know SL well enough to say I like him but I certainly don't dislike him - he needs to spam more.

We should be able to like people even if we hate their positions. I grant trolls test that premise to its breaking point but seriously, why do we have to take everything so very personally? Can't someone be okay even if they hold views we don't agree with?

That was the original idea behind the spam fora - to have a place to play around and get to know each other apart from the heat of debate.

It doesn't have to be the kind of place where we ostracize others for their views (behavior is a different matter - hence rules).

[Adam]

Define "spam fora" -- we know only that it's NOT the Lobby.

[Truthseeker]

Define "spam fora" -- we know only that it's NOT the Lobby.

O hast the thread wandered far afield! Not a complaint, just a wonder comment.