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    Today at Thanksgiving dinner, my brother made a comment about the economic situation in Puerto Rico getting out of hand and saying the US had to do something. This is the first I've heard of anything going on there. Anybody know more? What responsibility does the US have to the situation in Puerto Rico?
    "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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    it is a commonwealth governed by the USA see here and here but looks like the citizens want to become a state see here

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    • #3
      Originally posted by RumTumTugger View Post
      it is a commonwealth governed by the USA see here and here but looks like the citizens want to become a state see here
      If it did become a state would all the flags have to be changed?

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      • #4
        Since it's a government that can't print it's own money and bail itself out -- i.e. US, EU, China, Japan, et al. -- it will end up like every other failed country that needed (and continues to need) constant bail-out injections by some financial conglomerate. It all depends on the people, how they respond to the economic pain they must face. If they can't face the inevitable pain, which is the likely scenario, then it comes down to which global conglomerate they'll whore themselves out to -- probably the IMF.

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        • #5
          I think the US Government likes having this territory under their rule without being obligated to limitations (or the middleman) of statehood. But beyond some general ideas, I'm not familiar with recent developments there.

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          • #6
            An entertaining general introduction to the status of Puerto Rico and other US territories:

            (may possibly contain salty language, it's adult comedy, and I haven't watched it in full recently)

            I believe Puerto Rico is currently having some pretty severe economic issues but I can't remember what the exact nature of them is. As usual with all things concerning Puerto Rico I suspect the US congress will plant their heads firmly in the sand using their very best ostrich impersonations.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Starlight View Post
              An entertaining general introduction to the status of Puerto Rico and other US territories:

              (may possibly contain salty language, it's adult comedy, and I haven't watched it in full recently)
              It's thoroughly uninformed. NO territory has EVER been able to vote fro President until they became a state.
              That's what
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              • #8
                My understanding, which may be wrong, is that one of the big factors in keeping Puerto Ricans from wanting statehood is that as of now they don't have to pay federal income tax but they would if they became a state.
                "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                • #9
                  Puerto Rico would probably be better off becoming an independent nation rather than becoming a state.

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                  • #10
                    And then be a recipient of foreign aid and on the list of US overseas welfare takers -- they can lend their voice to how evil the U.S. of A is.

                    But liberal Christians like Yield-sign will prolly advocate as to how the down-trodden P-Ricans deserve more than their American colonizers intended. More foreign aid for the poor prunes!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by klaus54 View Post
                      And then be a recipient of foreign aid and on the list of US overseas welfare takers -- they can lend their voice to how evil the U.S. of A is.

                      But liberal Christians like Yield-sign will prolly advocate as to how the down-trodden P-Ricans deserve more than their American colonizers intended. More foreign aid for the poor prunes!
                      At this point in time, yes, they do need more help than people stateside. But it's not foreign aid, given that Puerto Rico is part of the US.
                      "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                        At this point in time, yes, they do need more help than people stateside. But it's not foreign aid, given that Puerto Rico is part of the US.
                        ???

                        But they vie for the honor of status of U.S. international aid.

                        As I'm sure a U.S. "Christian" liberal will find this just fine.

                        More in the tax for the successful, less for the plate for 2000 year over the plate libs like you.

                        Now, productive answers for Puerto Rico are welcomed - including paying Federal Income Tax for the benefits they receive.

                        BTW, I had TWO students from Puerto Rico who live like kings/queens.

                        No federal tax is a great advantage.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by klaus54 View Post
                          ???

                          But they vie for the honor of status of U.S. international aid.

                          As I'm sure a U.S. "Christian" liberal will find this just fine.
                          What's the issue? All people have equal value regardless of where they live. And what's with putting Christian in scare quotes? I think this position is the only Christian one.
                          "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by KingsGambit View Post
                            What's the issue? All people have equal value regardless of where they live. And what's with putting Christian in scare quotes? I think this position is the only Christian one.
                            "Equal value"?

                            I'm sure you can come up with individuals where this isn't CULTURALLY true.

                            Give it up, jerk -- you're know-nothing.

                            Enjoy your Bible studies.

                            Now, PRACTICALLY -- what do want to do about Puerto Rico?

                            More foreign aid for an already privileged tropical nation who's still sucking at the teat of the U.S. with no tax revenue to show?

                            Hahaha... You libs are TOO easy to yank!

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                            • #15
                              This is true; it's a Christian value that there is no Jew nor Greek, no male nor female in Christ. People naturally have equal value before God. Since you are not a Christian, I wouldn't expect you to understand.

                              I have no idea what I did to set you off so much, but go find another thread to disrupt.
                              "I am not angered that the Moral Majority boys campaign against abortion. I am angry when the same men who say, "Save OUR children" bellow "Build more and bigger bombers." That's right! Blast the children in other nations into eternity, or limbless misery as they lay crippled from "OUR" bombers! This does not jell." - Leonard Ravenhill

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