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    Quote Originally Posted by Christianbookworm View Post
    Is that in reference to the various cults that think Jesus made a "spiritual" return? I hope no one mistakes the Second Coming for something else!
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    And some ideas sound like people have watched too many action films.
    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christianbookworm View Post
    I've seen some premillenial dispensation futurists be very dogmatic about their position. Hopefully not to the point of claiming you can't be a Christian unless you agree with them, but they do seem to think you have to agree with them to be a good Christian. I'm pretty agnostic about what will happen before the Second coming of Jesus. If most of the prophecies were fulfilled in the first century(aside from the Second Coming and Final Resurrection, duh), that would be okay. If the planet goes down the tubes before Jesus returns, so be it. I'd like to know why some people think Jesus will return in our lifetimes. Haven't people been saying that for nearly two millennia?
    The church where I grew up required members to be dispensational premill pre-trib. What concerns me most about the position is that it contends that believers will miss all the bad stuff that happens at the end; if persecution comes before they depart, will they persevere?
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    I'm a pan-millennialist (it'll all pan out in the end). Some people criticize this as a lazy approach but I just don't think God is as interested in giving us the specific details as people would like.
    I want something good to die for to make it beautiful to live.

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    No spoilers! It might cause a time paradox.
    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christianbookworm View Post
    No spoilers! It might cause a time paradox.
    Seriously! If we knew the exact details, it would change things for the worse. Somehow.
    If it weren't for the Resurrection of Jesus, we'd all be in DEEP TROUBLE!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsGambit View Post
    I'm a pan-millennialist (it'll all pan out in the end). Some people criticize this as a lazy approach but I just don't think God is as interested in giving us the specific details as people would like.
    Scripture Verse: Amos 3:7

    Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darfius View Post
    Scripture Verse: Amos 3:7

    Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.

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    Context, and no quote mining. He doesn't literally spell out every single thing He will do ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darfius View Post
    Scripture Verse: Amos 3:7

    Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets.

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    And if the Apostle John whom Jesus gave the Revelation (1:1) to is the last living prophet until these two (Revelation 11;3) come (Acts 1:7).
    . . . the Gospel of Christ, for it is [the] power of God to salvation to every [one] believing, . . . -- Romans 1:16.

    . . . that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: . . . -- 1 Corinthians 15:3, 4.

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    I am pretty much the same way CBW. I don't really care if Jesus comes back tomorrow or in a thousand years. I just know that we all will meet Jesus in our own lifetimes (or to be precise, at the end of our lifetimes) so even if Jesus doesn't come back to earth for another thousands years, I will be meeting him in a few decades. And so will everyone else alive right now.

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