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Abortion derail from the Active Shooter thread
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Abortion derail from the Active Shooter thread
“I think God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability.” ― Oscar Wilde
“And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that He would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt His existence” ― Bertrand Russell
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Originally posted by firstfloor View PostThis is language likely to incite terrorism.
Nobody is “murdering babies”.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostThe purposeful death of an unborn innocent child is considered, by many, including me, to be murder.Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostAnd they are babies who are murdered, not toddlers, or older kids, or adults.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Jedidiah View PostIf the shooter does not claim any other faith it will by default be considered Christian. And it is only Christians who object to murdering babies isn't it?“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostStrange! I always thought "murdering babies" was against the law in most civilised countries, regardless of religion.
I think you are referring to embryos, or fetuses.
It's your sort of careless and emotionally charged language (e.g. "slaughtering millions of babies in the womb"), that inspires the less stable to go out and commit this sort of murderous behaviour against abortion clinics in the first place.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostIt's your sort of careless and emotionally charged language (e.g. "slaughtering millions of babies in the womb"), that inspires the less stable to go out and commit this sort of murderous behaviour against abortion clinics in the first place.
I don't condone such attacks, but let's be honest about the reason abortion clinics are sometimes targeted."If you believe, take the first step, it leads to Jesus Christ. If you don't believe, take the first step all the same, for you are bidden to take it. No one wants to know about your faith or unbelief, your orders are to perform the act of obedience on the spot. Then you will find yourself in the situation where faith becomes possible and where faith exists in the true sense of the word." - Dietrich Bonhoeffer, The Cost of Discipleship
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostFar more babies, on the order of millions, are killed by abortionists than abortionists killed by "the less stable", as you put it.
And yet even though it is that, and Christians would be completely justified in just shrugging this off as a lone nutjob. We'll gladly step out to say that this was not an act we approve.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostStrange! I always thought "murdering babies" was against the law in most civilised countries, regardless of religion. I think you are referring to embryos, or fetuses. It's your sort of careless and emotionally charged language (e.g. "slaughtering millions of babies in the womb"), that inspires the less stable to go out and commit this sort of murderous behaviour against abortion clinics in the first place.
Ah, sorry, I forgot; it's only those on the right who are capable of creating an atmosphere of hatred and violence with the use of extreme, violent and/or charged language and rhetoric. My bad.Last edited by CMD; 11-28-2015, 10:03 PM.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostStrange! That anybody would think that killing a baby is justified simply because it's safely inside its mother's womb.
Nope. Babies. Unborn, but babies, nonetheless.
Far more babies, on the order of millions, are killed by abortionists than abortionists killed by "the less stable", as you put it.Last edited by Tassman; 11-28-2015, 09:34 PM.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostOnce again killing babies, or any other human being, is against the law in most places in the world.
You are referring to embryos, or fetuses which, whilst potential human beings (and therefore not to be disposed of without careful consideration), are not in fact human beings.
You're arbitrarily granting 'person-hood' status to entities that have not yet acquired that status.
Not so, a "baby" is defined as "an infant or very young child".The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostNot so, a "baby" is defined as "an infant or very young child"Last edited by Cow Poke; 11-28-2015, 09:46 PM.The first to state his case seems right until another comes and cross-examines him.
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View PostI'll tell you what... go to any hospital that "delivers babies", and stand by as a doctor tells a young woman the heartbreaking news, "I'm sorry, but you've lost your baby". Step in and explain, "no, that wasn't a baby you carried for 7 1/2 months - it was just tissue - a fetus", and let me know how that works for ya. Tell me you wouldn't be seen as a cold heartless!@#$!^&!&. THAT, my friend, would be "careless and emotionally charged language".
It's only when the mother doesn't want "it" that "it" magically becomes a non-human parasitic clump of worthless cells that can be disposed of at will.Last edited by CMD; 11-28-2015, 10:36 PM.
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Originally posted by Tassman View PostOnce again killing babies, or any other human being, is against the law in most places in the world. You are referring to embryos, or fetuses which, whilst potential human beings (and therefore not to be disposed of without careful consideration), are not in fact human beings. You're arbitrarily granting 'person-hood' status to entities that have not yet acquired that status.
Not so, a "baby" is defined as "an infant or very young child".
No "babies" are killed by abortionists at all...your language is emotional nonsense and demonstrably incites violence against the service providers at family planning clinics. Would you prefer a return to backyard abortions with wire coat-hangers, because this will be the outcome of your hysterical posturing?Micah 6:8 He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?
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Originally posted by Cow Poke View Post
Nope - that's only what you call them so you can feel better about killing them.
Doesn't change the fact that they are babies.
Nope - you're arbitrarily STEALING "person-hood' from a baby.
You can jack with definitions all you want,
but when we stand before God, it's HIS definitions that count.“He felt that his whole life was a kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.” - Douglas Adams.
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