Fun with Evolutionists

[lao tzu]

Why does sport have problems with the native Americans? I am part Indian....

Because they beat him up when he tried to ... okay, I'll quit.

[rogue06]

Because they beat hm up when he tried to ... okay, I'll quit.

OK. I'll admit it. It took me two readings to get it. Way to go and get 'em.

[supersport]

Why does sport have problems with the native Americans? I am part Indian....

I have nothing against indians...I've made that perfectly clear. American Indians, as all other human beings are gloriously created by the Lord.

By the way, you never did answer me........how exactly is it that a topic on random mutations is the same as all the other posts I've written? And how is it that someone on this forum accuses me of fondling other people still is allowed to post here at a Christian site?

I would like an answer, please.

[Tatanka_Maza]

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I would like an answer, please.

I want a public apology on CARM for your comments about indians. After all, it is the Christian thing to do, right?

[supersport]

You have cherry-picked one statement of mine that was backed up by numerous links.

http://alcoholism.about.com/od/health/a/blucd060408.htm

"Among American Indians, five of the top 10 causes of death are strongly associated with alcohol use: accidents, alcoholism, suicides, homicides, and cirrhosis," said Jay Shore, assistant professor of psychiatry at the University of Colorado at Denver, the Health Sciences Center's American Indian and Alaska Native Programs

http://www.oas.samhsa.gov/2k3/AmIndians/AmIndians.htm

From 1999 to 2001, American Indians or Alaska Natives were more likely to have used cigarettes or an illicit drug in the past month compared with persons from other racial/ethnic groups and more likely than blacks or Asians to have engaged in binge or heavy drinking

Among youths aged 12 to 17, the rates of past month cigarette use, binge drinking, and illicit drug use were higher among American Indians or Alaska Natives than among those from other racial/ethnic groups

In 2001, American Indians or Alaska Natives had a higher rate of past year dependence or abuse on illicit drugs or alcohol than persons from other racial/ethnic groups

http://www.pbs.org/indiancountry/challenges/abuse.html

"Many immigrants [during the Indian Relocation Program] fell hard against the city. Too many drank themselves to death in the skid row bars known as Indian Alley," says Mark Anthony Rolo in A Seat at the Drum.

Alcohol and drugs are hard facts of life for too many urban and reservation Indians. Native Americans are five times more likely to die of alcohol-related causes than whites, according to the U.S. Surgeon General.

Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis — diseases associated with alcoholism — are the sixth leading cause of death among Native Americans. They are not even among the top 10 in whites.

Illegal drugs — marijuana, opiates, cocaine and stimulants — are increasing among Indians, but the drug of choice is still alcohol. One study found that among Indians entering substance abuse treatment programs in the U.S. in 2002, 63 percent were struggling with alcohol compared with only 42 percent for all other admissions.

http://ncadi.samhsa.gov/govstudy/sho...ts/amindianTX/

In 1999, there were about 43,000 American Indian and Alaska Native admissions to publicly funded substance abuse treatment facilities.


A higher proportion of American Indian/Alaska Native treatment admissions were female (35 percent) than among the total treatment population (30 percent).


Among American Indians/Alaska Natives, admissions for alcohol abuse declined by 11 percent between 1994 and 1999, while admissions for illicit drugs increased by 78 percent.




I didn't make this stuff up....Why should I apologize?

[Tatanka_Maza]

Sport, look at my sig line....that wasn't posted in "good humor", it was broad brush smear. And totally inaccurate. You were suspended for it, and you owe an apology.

[supersport]

Sport, look at my sig line....that wasn't posted in "good humor", it was broad brush smear. And totally inaccurate. You were suspended for it, and you owe an apology.

like I said, you cherry-picked my statement out of the context of a whole post and a string of posts on the topic....I also announced that not every -- or even most -- American Indians were drunks and I apologized if anyone was offended.

[Tatanka_Maza]

If you are truly contrite, then step up and post your aplogy.

[rogue06]

Uh... super? I didn't see anything about being in "tee pees" worshipping sun gods in any of those papers you cited. Say... Were any of those papers "scientific"? Didn't you just say (and then brag it wa a stroke of genius) that:
[quote:"Gen. Custer" supersport]I no longer believe a single word the nutball scientistic community has to say about anything. Quite honestly I don't believe even one single little tiny solitary word that they say or type. Neither do I believe Nazis, Communists, murderes, theives terrorists or Tyrants.[/quote]



So are you now disavowing your sources?

[lao tzu]

I would like an answer, please.

Relax, supersport. It's got nothing to do with the way your mother dresses you. It's all because I'm naturally better looking. Why don't you get with the program and exercise your phenotypic plasticity?

I haven't had this much fun troll-baiting since Troy Brooks.

[Ursus maritimus]

I'm just curious, then, why a Christian forum suspended you. It seems relevant, since you have complained about "evolutionist bias" against you, especially when your posts on another blog were deleted last night.

Could it be that you get suspended and your posts deleted not because of anti-creationist bias? But, perhaps, because you are just ill-mannered?

Just a thought.

[supersport]

I'm just curious, then, why a Christian forum suspended you. It seems relevant, since you have complained about "evolutionist bias" against you, especially when your posts on another blog were deleted last night.

Could it be that you get suspended and your posts deleted not because of anti-creationist bias? But, perhaps, because you are just ill-mannered?

Just a thought.

oh...it's just like here...I'm baited out the wazoo and sometimes I retaliate....this time I retaliated a bit over the top. I have a new personal rule to ignore all those who bait me and/or are unable to carry on a reasonable conversation. There are several in here I will no longer converse with.

[Tatanka_Maza]

oh...it's just like here...I'm baited out the wazoo and sometimes I retaliate....this time I retaliated a bit over the top. I have a new personal rule to ignore all those who bait me and/or are unable to carry on a reasonable conversation. There are several in here I will no longer converse with.

Right. Blame the other person for your own rotten behavior.

[rogue06]

oh...it's just like here...I'm baited out the wazoo and sometimes I retaliate....this time I retaliated a bit over the top. I have a new personal rule to ignore all those who bait me and/or are unable to carry on a reasonable conversation. There are several in here I will no longer converse with.

Like how gaytheist "baited" you by contacting the researcher who's work you were misrepresenting (and he signed on to Tweb solely to tell you to desist ), and you lit into her with a nasty homophobic tirade. Stop playing the put-upon martyr super, it doesn't suit you.

[lao tzu]

oh...it's just like here...I'm baited out the wazoo and sometimes I retaliate....this time I retaliated a bit over the top.

One man's retaliation is another man's self-destructive, weak-willed loss of control by the mentally unstable. Laddy, the internets are just too much for you. Time to find another hobby before we read about you in the papers. You have a serious psychological disease. You need to seek help before you become a danger to yourself or others, if you're not already.

It's not about evolution and creationism, dude. It's about you.