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March 19th 2007, 02:55 PM #1
Bush administration reinterprets species law
These changes strike me as being a bad idea to begin with, but I find it somewhat teling that the U.S. Department of Interior Solicitor is complaining about how they've lost so many lawsuits.Bush administration reinterprets species law
Officials say endangered wildlife will be helped, activists plan to sue
Updated: 8:20 a.m. CT March 19, 2007
GRANTS PASS, Ore. - Tired of losing lawsuits brought by conservation groups, the Bush administration issued a new interpretation of the Endangered Species Act that would allow it to protect plants and animals only in areas where they are struggling to survive, while ignoring places they are healthy or have already died out.
The opinion by U.S. Department of Interior Solicitor David Bernhardt was posted with no formal announcement on the department's Web site on Friday.
U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Director Dale Hall, contacted in Washington, D.C., said the new policy would allow them to focus on protecting species in areas where they are in trouble, rather than having to list a species over its entire range.
Source and More: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17687161/“History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it illumines reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us tidings of antiquity.”
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March 19th 2007, 04:34 PM #2
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And the problem with this is...what? When you have areas of crime in a city, you don't increase police presence in areas where crime is not happening. You concentrate your patrols in the crime-ridden areas. Anything else is a waste of money and manpower.that would allow it to protect plants and animals only in areas where they are struggling to survive, while ignoring places they are healthy or have already died outGONE FOR GOOD BECAUSE THE MODS ARE FRICKIN' RETARDS
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March 19th 2007, 04:36 PM #3
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March 19th 2007, 05:19 PM #4
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March 19th 2007, 05:35 PM #5
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It kinda makes sense to me that you would spend your money where it can do the most good--where a species is having difficulties--rather than where it is getting along just fine without intervention.
I'm not so OK with the "where it they have died out" part. By that standard, condors would be protected nowhere, and eagles in a very limited area. When an endangered species begins to return to an portion of it's former range I think it should receive protected there as well.I have been honored as an Enemy of Nee™ and LAu Tzu hasn't!
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March 19th 2007, 06:37 PM #6
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It's a problem because of this:
It sounds as if they're trying to say that a species can go extinct in one area as long as it's alive in another.Since at least 2000, Interior lawyers have gone to court claiming that a species could be listed based on a portion of its range only if disappearing from that portion of its range threatens its continued survival everywhere, Bernhardt said.“History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it illumines reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us tidings of antiquity.”
-Cicero
“When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.”
-Mark Twain
"Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness."
-Terry Pratchett
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March 19th 2007, 07:29 PM #7
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GONE FOR GOOD BECAUSE THE MODS ARE FRICKIN' RETARDS
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March 19th 2007, 07:48 PM #8
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Except for the part where they actually said that. The article states that the U.S. Department of Interior Solicitor made that claim.
According to the linked PDF file conaining the Secretaries actual opinion, it states:(The file link is here: http://www.doi.gov/solicitor/M37013.pdf)Under the Department's interpretation, there is only one situation in which the Secretary must find a species to be an endangered species--when the Secretary finds that it is in danger of extinction throughout all of its range.“History is the witness that testifies to the passing of time; it illumines reality, vitalizes memory, provides guidance in daily life and brings us tidings of antiquity.”
-Cicero
“When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.”
-Mark Twain
"Sometimes it's better to light a flamethrower than curse the darkness."
-Terry Pratchett
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March 19th 2007, 08:13 PM #9
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Actually, this makes sense to me. Why protect something in an area it does not need to be protected? Over protecting something can upset the balance of things just as underprotecting something can.
That being said, I'd like to see exactly how they plan to act, because I have a feeling that what the summary says will be different from what the administration actually plans on doing."Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose.
You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart." — Steve Jobs
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March 19th 2007, 08:14 PM #10
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"Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose.
You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart." — Steve Jobs
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