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July 3rd 2007, 12:16 PM #76
Re: What the prophet Muhammad said about truth and falsehood
I have already quoted lots of those violent & forceful verses of the Quran. They are ALL IN CONTEXT, including their interpretations.
They are still active and effective for today, thats why many muslims STILL get radicalized by them - even just by themselves.
Like I already have demonstrated to you with examples from Singapore and the U.K. Not to mention the regular ones in Iraq, Syria, Palestine, Iran, Lebanon etc.!"Theres a God-shaped vacuum in everyone that can only be filled by God Himself!"
Blaise Pascal
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July 3rd 2007, 12:27 PM #77
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July 6th 2007, 06:01 AM #78
Re: What the prophet Muhammad said about truth and falsehood
I can give you more than 1 example..:
- "As for those who are slain in the cause of God, He will not allow their works to perish. ... He will admit them to the Paradise He has made known to them." (47:4-6)
- "Let those who would exchange the life of this world for the hereafter, fight for the cause of God; whether he dies or triumphs, We shall richly reward him. ... The true believers fight for the cause of God, but the infidels fight for the devil. Fight then against the friends of Satan ..." (4:74,76)
- "The believers who stay at home––apart from those that suffer a grave impediment––are not the equals of those who fight for the cause of God with their goods and their persons. God has given those that fight with their goods and their persons a higher rank than those who stay at home ..." (4:95,96)
- "Slay the idolaters wherever you find them. ... lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and render the alms levy, allow them to go their way ..." (9:5)
- "Those that make war against God and His apostle and spread disorder in the land shall be put to death or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or be banished from the land. They shall be held up to shame in this world and sternly punished in the hereafter: except those that repent before you reduce them ..." (5:34,35)
- "Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God’s religion shall reign supreme" (8:39)
- "Prophet, rouse the faithful to arms. If there are twenty steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish two hundred; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding." (8:65)
- "Fight against such of those to whom the Scriptures were given ... and do not embrace the true Faith, until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued." (9:29)
The Quran has scores more of the very same kind of Verses rousing muslims to war, to forcefulness & to endemic violence, which is already confirmed by moose, that these injunctions are OPEN-ENDED Ie. are permanent and without end.
Wasalaam, Dan.
"Theres a God-shaped vacuum in everyone that can only be filled by God Himself!"
Blaise Pascal
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July 6th 2007, 02:29 PM #79
Re: What the prophet Muhammad said about truth and falsehood
I asked for how your previous citations were in context, and you gave me more out-of-context citations. That does not address my request...
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July 8th 2007, 11:32 PM #80
Re: What the prophet Muhammad said about truth and falsehood
You have not once shown the truthfulness nor correctness how these violent quranic verses are 'out of context' !
So you do the justifying...!"Theres a God-shaped vacuum in everyone that can only be filled by God Himself!"
Blaise Pascal
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July 12th 2007, 03:00 PM #81
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